cfl frame identification

sporty5 · #1 (**permalink**) 03-05-2013, 02:40 AM

gday (please excuse the language i am aussie) i have just purchased a 2up cfl frame am trying to find out if orig or aftermarket, have scoured the forum for answers am still a bit confused , any help would be appreciated, thanks am looking forward to get feedback etc as build progresses

HellionsMC · #2 (**permalink**) 03-05-2013, 04:20 AM

Did you get an MSO with the frame?

sporty5 · #3 (**permalink**) 03-05-2013, 04:39 AM

it was advertised on e bay with paperwork , drove 5 hours to pick up up when i arrived he told me paperwork is missing, was told is 2006, cheers

dissn00 · #4 (**permalink**) 03-05-2013, 06:36 AM

I don't know about the laws down under... But here in most states you just bought a very large paperweight... My frame is from 2006 and is up on eBay right now, I don't know if they numbered in order or not but you could message me with your number and see if they are close. - Chuck

CloudDiver · #5 (**permalink**) 03-05-2013, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by sporty5

it was advertised on e bay with paperwork , drove 5 hours to pick up up when i arrived he told me paperwork is missing, was told is 2006, cheers

If you bought it through eBay you need to nail the guy... He needs to come up with the paperwork or refund you, period, no exceptions. You are screwed without that MSO and as far as I know there is no way to replace it. I also understand Australia is pretty strict on registering new construction motorcycles, so there isn't any way around not having that MSO.

The CFL serial number on the frame should have the year in in just like a regular VIN. after the 1CFL**** there should be a 6 in those first few characters that indicates an 06 frame.

250CFL · #6 (**permalink**) 03-05-2013, 09:03 AM

Yep, what Cloud said ^^^ is spot on... If you do not find the MSO it is still possible to register it but it is a nightmare in the US so I could only imagine it's worse where you are, good luck.

TWOWHLSIRVIVR · #7 (**permalink**) 03-05-2013, 01:57 PM

Pics of the oil tank mount area would tell alot too!

sporty5 · #8 (**permalink**) 03-05-2013, 09:05 PM

thanks for the input , yes i was a bit suss when he said the paperwork was missing but couldnt help myself, the oil tank is not polished and has 3 mounting holes, it also does not have the spider web neck gussett, the roller is in storage at moment will get there and check the vin, i think i will still be able to register it here it is just a lot of crap, engineers certificate etc, cheers thanks again

sporty5 · #9 (**permalink**) 03-05-2013, 09:14 PM

have just checked the frame on e bay ( i payed double that lol ) cant quite see oil tank area but it looks same otherwise mine is 2 up , have read early 2ups were 1 inch forward where as later cc ones were 2 out, thanks again

HellionsMC · #10 (**permalink**) 03-05-2013, 09:29 PM

Later LBC frames were also 2" out, not just the Custom Chrome frames.

CFL_NUT · #11 (**permalink**) 03-05-2013, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sporty5

thanks for the input , yes i was a bit suss when he said the paperwork was missing but couldnt help myself, the oil tank is not polished and has 3 mounting holes, it also does not have the spider web neck gussett, the roller is in storage at moment will get there and check the vin, i think i will still be able to register it here it is just a lot of crap, engineers certificate etc, cheers thanks again

Take some pics as well and post them here. Do you have a link to the eBay listing or is it old?

BANGS · #12 (**permalink**) 03-06-2013, 02:51 AM

Get your money back dude and look for another one.
It'll save you a lot of heartache that the seller was no doubt trying to avoid, you need that MSO if you want to register it.
You should have no problem getting a refund if it was advertised with paperwork.
I'm no law expert but the only frames that I've seen go through are ICV frames which you have to prove you manufactured yourself, ie; with progress photo's, engineer signoffs etc, and the standards are stupid strict.

Half-Fast · #13 (**permalink**) 03-06-2013, 04:46 AM

The frame number will tell the year. It should be 1CFLR06******* if it is an '06 frame.

Aussiechop · #14 (**permalink**) 03-06-2013, 04:50 AM

Hey man, By the sounds of your oil tank mount it sounds legit, 06 is also a LB era so it could be an original, I think I know of the seller, he had been trying to sell it for awhile yeah? Unpainted? Fatter rear end?

You NEED the MSO for the frame, 100%, this is pretty much proof that it hasn;t been stolen/chopped/gutted etc.

You also need receipts for engine and tranny. I'm trying to register my CFL and it's pretty hard, have had the frame tested and everything, mine is also an ICV like BANGS said, you don;t have to build the frame yourself but it has to be crack and strength tested, and you have to do the rest yourself, pretty much as he said, manufacture a bike yourself.

sporty5 · #15 (**permalink**) 03-07-2013, 04:33 PM

thanks for all the info, i know i stuffed up not demanding the mso but i was just itching to get a frame as they dont come up for sale very often, i will still build it anyway , my bikes dont get out much as i am 42 but have bad arthritis so i usually only ride short trips etc , dont usually register because of little use (many fines), but i know if i ever try to sell it it will make it very hard to sell, i bought an 87 softail as the donor bike which was imported here to aus, i am thinking of registering that as is and do the old number switch, but they are right onto that stuff as well, thanks again for all the info , would love to hear from anyone in aus who can help getting a rear guard(fender) we call them mudguards, cheers