FB 200, How far to mock up? - Page 2

Punisher · #16 (**permalink**) 12-22-2006, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by fijensen

Is this grommet all the way in? (top of pic) I have a large and small spacer with the rotor. I'm thinking the large one goes on the inside? What keeps the oil out? I'll look through the seals, and try to figure it out. I have a Harley book, but it's not the same. TIA

There is a seal on the shaft where it starts to stick out from the block that keeps the oil in... Do you have an open primary??

As for the plug, NO its not all the way in, you need to be able to plug the regulater into it on the outside.... There is a set screw that you can see in the pic.. make sure that is backed out before trying to push more of the plug thru... also, DO NOT over tighten the set screw,,,, doing so will ground the stator out and IF it runs, it will run like shit,,, and possably damage the stator.

fijensen · #17 (**permalink**) 12-22-2006, 01:51 PM

I don't have an open primary. It's a chain, and I believe it has oil pumped through it, so the inner primary must have some kind of seal where the engine shaft comes through. the only seals I see are the starter shaft seal, and inner primary seal. I'm working on the oil system in the mean time. On the rotor spacers I think it's actually the small one on the inside?

Punisher · #18 (**permalink**) 12-22-2006, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by fijensen

I don't have an open primary. It's a chain, and I believe it has oil pumped through it, so the inner primary must have some kind of seal where the engine shaft comes through. the only seals I see are the starter shaft seal, and inner primary seal. I'm working on the oil system in the mean time. On the rotor spacers I think it's actually the small one on the inside?

Hopefully someone with the enclosed system will help me out here, but I can tell you that the engine oil and the primary oil are two different things... The same seal will keep the primary oil from the engine oil. with the primary, you should have seal on both sides of the offset, and a big gasket for the outter cover, inspection cover and the derby cover... Not sure about the tranny side, but I am assuming that there is a seal at that end also...

Your stator and clutch basket will be wet, as well as the chain.

Laughing Jack · #19 (**permalink**) 12-22-2006, 08:43 PM

Your right! And after five of them I plan on keeping it that way. Got reid of the old ladies and raised my two boys by myself. Now on the bright side my girl freind understand this. Now for the grommet it looks correct now don't set the set screw to deep into the rubber and use loctite blue the primary will keep it from backing out. I've got an open primary but I believe the big one will go on the out side. But I would agian mock it all up for trueness. Hope this help answer everyone questions!

fijensen · #20 (**permalink**) 12-23-2006, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Punisher

Your stator and clutch basket will be wet, as well as the chain.

That's what had me confused. I didn't think the stator would be wet. Thanks

fijensen · #21 (**permalink**) 12-23-2006, 06:16 AM

Yesterday I put an oil cooler on it. It wouldn't fit the way they intended it to, so I had to make a bracket, and weld it to the frame. Ulima says you need em 100 CI and up, so it's gettin one.

Punisher · #22 (**permalink**) 12-23-2006, 10:38 AM

I would consider that an advisement... I had a 100 and now a 110 without a cooler... Just depends on how hot your oil gets... BUT its better to weld to the frame now then when painted... Looks good!!

fijensen · #23 (**permalink**) 12-23-2006, 11:47 AM

Thanks, I live in the Houston area. It gets hot as hell here, so I probably need some help keeping the oil cool.

fijensen · #24 (**permalink**) 12-23-2006, 03:43 PM

Today I pressed the bearing into the inner primary, Installed the innner primary cover and tightened down the transmission. While I was there I mounted the starter, and the oil tank. The oil tank was missing the front bracket. I took the bike off the jack, and put it on jack stands, and installed the shocks. The front shock mounting block was welded too close to the frame on the left side. I had to cut a couple threads off of the left shock mounting bolt so I could squeeze it in there. Then I decided to fit my rear fender. I set the adjusters, tightened up the belt, and lowered it down enough to put weight on the shocks. I got out my fender struts (2nd pair they've sent me) and the mounting bolts are off by about 1/4 inch. I mounted them with one bolt, and could see my tire wasn't centered. Moved some spacers around, had to use a few washers, got it centered, and now my belt rubs like shit. I stretched a string down from the neck. The tire is centered, but the belt rubs big time. So much for today.

fijensen · #25 (**permalink**) 12-23-2006, 03:53 PM

The last chopper I built.

Punisher · #26 (**permalink**) 12-23-2006, 04:35 PM

I would readjust the tracking of the belt.... that might just do it.... BUT another thought. DO you have, or need a pully spacer?? This would need to be a call to Ultima's tech support... If everyhting is adjusted correctly and the belt is rubbing the tire, then it would need to be spaced out. Follow me on this???

Remember me saying something, I think in a PM, about the wheel movement frame to frame,,, and front to back??? Well it also can go corner to corner... follow me?? The tracking of the belt is the only way to get it set correctly... You have it centered frame to frame. Now work on the belt tracking... I would move the axle adjusters all the way out, then turn them back in the same amout on both sides, till you no longer have the corner to corner movement. Now work on the belt.

Just remember, I havent built an Ultima kit, so I am just guessing.... Where are the other Ultima builders????? Come on guys help me out here.....

fijensen · #27 (**permalink**) 12-23-2006, 05:07 PM

It's not rubbing the tire. It's rubbing the swingarm. Sorry if I was too vague. Thanks

Laughing Jack · #28 (**permalink**) 12-23-2006, 08:38 PM

Know your making remember I had to do the same thing. One I had to run a spacer behind the wheel pulley. Also the pully always looked to me should have went on the other way since the bolt head had a little recess but it turned with the deepest dish outwards. Also remember to use center of rim not the avon since the center tread if I remember right wasn't really center. Like I said in earlier post the centering of the rear tire really tried me many times before I was satisfied. Hope this might help.

fijensen · #29 (**permalink**) 12-24-2006, 07:31 AM

I have the spacer behind the pulley. That's a good point about the tire. I've been centering on the tire. I'm going to figure out a better way to measure it. Thanks

fijensen · #30 (**permalink**) 01-05-2007, 11:29 AM

I fought with the rear fender for 2 days. I had to weld one of the mounting holes closed, and re-drill it on each strut (didn't fit). Then I cut about an inch off the front of the fender, and opened up the wheel well in the back (with a jig saw), so it would center. I was able to drop it down a little lower by doing that. I also had to cut an inch of length off the struts. When I slid the fender up next to the seat, they were too long.