Sealing gas tank, radiator shop or POR 15? - Page 4

Boogeyman · #46 (**permalink**) 05-07-2012, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by magnum45pete

no one posting here has said that they have had a leak that needed to be seald (TIG welding would have sorted that anyway!!!)
ALL the complaints have been about sealant going bad!!!...if they wern't ''sealed'' in the first place, there wouldn't be any problems.....so why????....''seal'' a tank that doesn't have a problem???????.
seems to me that sealing tanks just causes problems and empty wallets!!!...............WTF!!
I bought a second hand set of tanks that were fucked with a ''seal'' job gone bad.....cost me time off the road and money......in 38 yars on the road I have NEVER had a tank leak.....so why waste time and money having it done!!!....................beyond me!!

I agree, and here I am getting mine sealed

You can bet I'll be keeping an eye on it and if I see one spec of liner floating I'm taking it back and having it removed. The guy that recommended this radiator shop also suggested that i get them re-sealed. I hold him in very high regards and dont think he would steer me wrong. I really do feel like this guy knows what he's doing so i'm gonna hope for the best.

RedWings · #47 (**permalink**) 05-07-2012, 04:57 PM

anytime a welder tells you to seal ? put it back on the shelf and walk away. Good welds DON'T develop pin holes, thats a weak excuse for poor welding. Yes, a radiator shop is a good bet if you have to coat, they have the tools to clean it right but don't expect it to last forever cause that ain't gonna happen I don't care how good its put on. Oxygen causes rust so you don't have to fill your tank cause if you just have "some" gas in the tank, the fumes will push the oxygen out.

pop 28 · #48 (**permalink**) 05-07-2012, 05:04 PM

a good weld by a good welder will never leak, 80% of the motorcycle tanks are made off shore by some one who's being paid .50 cents a hour.. as frank said it's good insurance on a high dollar paint job

->Bullet<- · #49 (**permalink**) 05-08-2012, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RedWings

anytime a welder tells you to seal ? put it back on the shelf and walk away..

hahahaha

Evil v-twin · #50 (**permalink**) 05-08-2012, 09:01 AM

a micro hole can elude the soapy water test, usually due to technique, but never the less, when the gas or FUMES seep out they will ruin paint and cost much more than coating the tank right. now to properly test the tank put it to 5- 10 lbc pressure and submerge it in water, use pool or bathtub utility sink if thats what you have access to. sealing don properly will last 20 years. and NO KREEM!!!!

Boogeyman · #51 (**permalink**) 05-08-2012, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Evil v-twin

a micro hole can elude the soapy water test, usually due to technique, but never the less, when the gas or FUMES seep out they will ruin paint and cost much more than coating the tank right. now to properly test the tank put it to 5- 10 lbc pressure and submerge it in water, use pool or bathtub utility sink if thats what you have access to. sealing don properly will last 20 years. and NO KREEM!!!!

The down time for this issue has sucked bad, but my biggest priority all along has been to NOT fuck up the paint job you done for me.

I could have cut the sides of the tank to clean them out, and then would have had to pay someone to weld them back up. Then would have had to pressure test and any pin holes repaired and then would have had to ship them back to you for re-paint... I think I'm going about this the cheapest and most effective way of doing it. If they were just raw tanks it would be different, but these tanks have Bad Ass, Double Vision paint on them

Evil v-twin · #52 (**permalink**) 05-08-2012, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Boogeyman

The down time for this issue has sucked bad, but my biggest priority all along has been to NOT fuck up the paint job you done for me.

I could have cut the sides of the tank to clean them out, and then would have had to pay someone to weld them back up. Then would have had to pressure test and any pin holes repaired and then would have had to ship them back to you for re-paint... I think I'm going about this the cheapest and most effective way of doing it. If they were just raw tanks it would be different, but these tanks have Bad Ass, Double Vision paint on them

werent they stock oem tanks???so u had a fail of the inner coat(for the record i didnt coat the inside ). no leak just peeling off inside?

Boogeyman · #53 (**permalink**) 05-08-2012, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil v-twin

werent they stock oem tanks???so u had a fail of the inner coat(for the record i didnt coat the inside ). no leak just peeling off inside?

That is correct, the OEM sealer peeled off inside. I knew you didn't seal them. I found out after this happened that HD started sealing their tanks sometime around the mid 90's.

foggdog · #54 (**permalink**) 05-08-2012, 05:02 PM

Been following this thread, and just thought I'd do a search and found this site for gas stations that sell ethanol free gas across the country, in case anyone with tank liners wanna stay away from that shit just incase that whats causing people's shit to peel. Just click on your state's abreviation at the bottom of the page and a list will come up.
Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada

Evil v-twin · #55 (**permalink**) 05-08-2012, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Boogeyman

That is correct, the OEM sealer peeled off inside. I knew you didn't seal them. I found out after this happened that HD started sealing their tanks sometime around the mid 90's.

i know you know i didnt seal it ..just wanted others to be clear.

yeah im worried about the ethanol, ive sealed tanks for ppl befor the gas change, and lets see how many come back .

Boogeyman · #56 (**permalink**) 05-09-2012, 05:06 AM

Sorry about that EVT, I was just trying to give you a 'Plug". I didn't consider the fact that someone might assume that you sealed them.... I hope you dont have any tanks come back, that stuff is nasty once it breaks loose.

Thats a cool link Fogdog, thanks

Evil v-twin · #57 (**permalink**) 05-09-2012, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Boogeyman

Sorry about that EVT, I was just trying to give you a 'Plug". I didn't consider the fact that someone might assume that you sealed them.... I hope you dont have any tanks come back, that stuff is nasty once it breaks loose.

Thats a cool link Fogdog, thanks

No worries man . never even considered it to be a prob, just a disclaimer for others. lol.. your good thanks for the plug.

just a thought if the paint isnt bubbling or theres no sign of leaking, why seal it. if seeler is peeling then the prob started a long time ago before you noticed it, hence alot of time for gas/fumes to seep out and compromise the paint integrity . So you might not have to seal it?

Evil v-twin · #58 (**permalink**) 05-09-2012, 10:36 AM

I guess i'll do a test . gonna coat something then let some 93 octain sit in it for a while ans see what happens.

foggdog · #59 (**permalink**) 05-09-2012, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Evil v-twin

I guess i'll do a test . gonna coat something then let some 93 octain sit in it for a while ans see what happens.

With or without ethanol ?

magnum45pete · #60 (**permalink**) 05-09-2012, 12:05 PM

My buddy Rowan just called me......He sealed the tanks on his 47 Knucklehead about 6 weeks ago.......got them painted and fitted last week...........He's only had one tankfull of gas in the bike and he tells me today it's already turning to rubber and is peeling off!!!.....when he told the painter it had been sealed, he was told he shouldn't have done it and it would fuck up on him....................he didn't think it would take only a week to come true......