Club Chopper Forums Industrial Parts House  

Go Back   Club Chopper Forums > CHOPPER SHOP/TECH AREA > Shop Talk

Welcome to Club Chopper!  The World's largest and coolest place to be on the net if you dig the following!

  •  » Custom Bikes
  •  » Killer Paint
  •  » Old School Craftsmanship
  •  » Building and Wrenching
  •  » Hot Babes
  •  » Chopper Build Logs

...then you have come to the right place!

YES! I want to register an account for free right now!  p.s.: For registered members this ad will NOT show

Chopper Tech
Tech Article
Tech Article
Tech Article
Tech Article
Tech Article
Main Menu
Module Jump:
Club Chop Gallery

Club Chopper Gallery

Submit Your Photos!

Active Threads
Hellion CFL Build.
Last Post: DIABOLUS
Posted On: Today
Replies: 316
Views: 32,659
battery
Last Post: rem hamilton
Posted On: Today
Replies: 12
Views: 237
Misc HD parts many for 1990 sportster
Last Post: wsevans3
Posted On: Today
Replies: 2
Views: 207
Ultima engine survey.
Last Post: Tx51
Posted On: Today
Replies: 192
Views: 30,942
Buell/Sportster Pictures
Last Post: sawdustnsteel
Posted On: Today
Replies: 351
Views: 147,638
More...
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 01-13-2012, 01:24 PM
Club Chopper Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Phoenix, az
Posts: 3
Not Ranked     
S&S 113, starting problems

Have a 113 on my bike currently. Been having starting problems with this bike since I bought it. Problem is, I get somewhere, shut it down, it won't start. I do keep a tender on it whenever I am not on it. I have a Super G carb on it that I am being told is more of a racing carb and that a Mikuni would probably be more user friendly.
I have had this bike to a few different shops and this problem has yet to be solved. Just put a new battery in, though the old one wasn't very old, maybe 6 months.
I am at the point where I am simply considering ripping out the starter, igniton, etc. and completely replacing anything that may affect starting.
I am looking for recommendations on an excellent starter, ignition, and carb that may solve this issue for me. Any input is greatly appreciated. Thank You, Mark
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Sponsored Links
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 01-13-2012, 01:44 PM
rastoy's Avatar
Club Chopper Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Not quite sure, VA
Bike Year, Make, Engine: 01 Fatboy,65 Matchless, 83 V-65, +more
Posts: 6,209
Send a message via AIM to rastoy
Not Ranked     
You need to give a few more details as to what it's doing when it won't start.
Won't start when it's hot - cranks - could be vapor lock.
__________________
Try to learn something new every day and don't accept everything as fact.

Nevermind, you're hopeless.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 01-13-2012, 02:37 PM
CC Member/Contributor
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: San Jose, Ca
Bike Year, Make, Engine: 2004War Eagle
Posts: 1,131
Not Ranked     
Won't crank over,
won't start after cranking,


Won't start is somewhat of a generic statement.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 01-13-2012, 03:20 PM
rastoy's Avatar
Club Chopper Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Not quite sure, VA
Bike Year, Make, Engine: 01 Fatboy,65 Matchless, 83 V-65, +more
Posts: 6,209
Send a message via AIM to rastoy
Not Ranked     
And if you went to a few shops that couldn't fix it, don't go to them again.
__________________
Try to learn something new every day and don't accept everything as fact.

Nevermind, you're hopeless.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 01-13-2012, 07:18 PM
Barefoot Choppa's Avatar
Douchebaggery
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Barefoot Country, NJ
Bike Year, Make, Engine: 05 Barefoot Choppa
Posts: 29,062
Not Ranked     
What would Vince do?
__________________
...Handle every stressfull situation like a dog...if you can't eat it or hump it...piss on it and walk away...
"if i got all bent out of shape over folks i don't respect... i might wake up with your life"
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 01-13-2012, 07:34 PM
lonestar's Avatar
Club Chopper Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Fritoville, TX
Bike Year, Make, Engine: Custom , 117" S&S
Posts: 404
Not Ranked     
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barefoot Choppa View Post
What would Vince do?
Give the compression releases a pull...
__________________
C'mon Scary, theres a decending order of cool and WCC is at the top, we all know its true and the only thing that would make me cooler would be a bike with a vagina I could fuck start in front of 7-11 during a scratch off bonanza sale. Cole 2-15-09]
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 01-13-2012, 07:38 PM
clspht's Avatar
CC Member/Contributor
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Somewhere Freakin Cold, FU
Posts: 3,201
Not Ranked     
He would tell us that it is impossible for an S&S motor to not be perfect because it was not touched by a "slope". He will then remind us for the 100th time, that he knows because he went S&S University.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 01-13-2012, 07:42 PM
Barefoot Choppa's Avatar
Douchebaggery
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Barefoot Country, NJ
Bike Year, Make, Engine: 05 Barefoot Choppa
Posts: 29,062
Not Ranked     
Quote:
Originally Posted by clspht View Post
He would tell us that it is impossible for an S&S motor to not be perfect because it was not touched by a "slope". He will then remind us for the 100th time, that he knows because he went S&S University.
LMFAO!!!!
__________________
...Handle every stressfull situation like a dog...if you can't eat it or hump it...piss on it and walk away...
"if i got all bent out of shape over folks i don't respect... i might wake up with your life"
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 01-13-2012, 10:04 PM
Orange skullz's Avatar
CC Member/Contributor
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Troy, OH
Bike Year, Make, Engine: 04' TEXAS CHOPPER 124ci.
Posts: 7,627
Not Ranked     
more details...more details...more details
__________________
Someone's full of SHIT....
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 01-14-2012, 09:49 AM
Club Chopper Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Phoenix, az
Posts: 3
Not Ranked     
Sometimes it is still hot when I try to start it, sometimes not. It cranks over well but doesn't appear to fire adequately. After few attempts, I just get clicking, and It's done. Always hit the comp. heads
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 01-17-2012, 06:30 PM
Club Chopper Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: sylvania, oh
Posts: 16
Not Ranked     
I have a 111S&S with a Super "G" carb and was always having problems getting it started. After going thru the whole charging system, new battery, coil and putting a new voltage regulator in it I still had problems. Eventually I changed the spark plugs and cured all the problems. The Super "G" seems to foul my plugs real easily and I have to pay attention and make sure they stay clean. Bike runs great now. Doesn't seem to make a difference which spark plug I use as long as they stay clean.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 01-18-2012, 10:24 AM
Club Chopper Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Here, AR
Posts: 133
Not Ranked     
Quote:
Originally Posted by clspht View Post
He would tell us that it is impossible for an S&S motor to not be perfect because it was not touched by a "slope". He will then remind us for the 100th time, that he knows because he went S&S University.
lmao
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 01-18-2012, 11:23 AM
RedWings's Avatar
Club Chopper Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: South Texas, TX
Bike Year, Make, Engine: chopped hardtail 100"Evil Evo
Posts: 7,993
Not Ranked     
1 problem that electronic ignitions have always had is that the spark is very fast making it hard starting unless all the planets are aligned. Some of the more expensive ignitions overcome this with multiple spark. The other thing is, a hot motor thats hard to start is an indication of weak rings or leaky valves. Another problem that could exist is that s+s carbs are known to overcharge the cylinders with gas both when you shut down and when you try to start, using the choke. A warm motor with a s+s carb will never need choke to start, if it does need choke, you have either leaks or a compression problem.
My opinion is this; make sure the timing is right, the plugs are right, shut the gas off then shut down the motor (not the other way around)even let it run a second or two before you shut it down. When you start it, no choke and crank the throttle just a wee bit and I mean just a wee bit. Your motor should come to life when the #1 piston comes up the second time, the first piston rotation should charge the cylinder with gas and on the second rotation it should fire.
__________________
Just tryin to make it in this fuked up world without gettin busted for some bullshit thing
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 01-18-2012, 04:51 PM
PART OF THE CREW FUCK OFF
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: boston, ma
Bike Year, Make, Engine: 07 919
Posts: 13,682
Not Ranked     
all i remember when i ran a 113...the plugs ran clean all the time...and when hot a push of starter button fired up in blink of an eye;;;id think if your plugs are getting fouled...jetting might be a place to start'''''''''im just curious whats the jetting and exhaust
__________________
Plasterhead 515..not the brightest bulb on the tree but the last to burn out
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:50 AM.


vBulletin skins developed by: eXtremepixels
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0

CC Policy

The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubchopper.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners or moderators. clubchopper.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you or have been given the expressed written consent to post. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). For full policy, please click the "CC policy" link. Thank you for visiting the clubchopper.com
Links monetized by VigLink