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01-13-2012, 12:24 PM
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S&S 113, starting problems
Have a 113 on my bike currently. Been having starting problems with this bike since I bought it. Problem is, I get somewhere, shut it down, it won't start. I do keep a tender on it whenever I am not on it. I have a Super G carb on it that I am being told is more of a racing carb and that a Mikuni would probably be more user friendly.
I have had this bike to a few different shops and this problem has yet to be solved. Just put a new battery in, though the old one wasn't very old, maybe 6 months.
I am at the point where I am simply considering ripping out the starter, igniton, etc. and completely replacing anything that may affect starting.
I am looking for recommendations on an excellent starter, ignition, and carb that may solve this issue for me. Any input is greatly appreciated. Thank You, Mark
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01-13-2012, 12:44 PM
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You need to give a few more details as to what it's doing when it won't start.
Won't start when it's hot - cranks - could be vapor lock.
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01-13-2012, 01:37 PM
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Won't crank over,
won't start after cranking,
Won't start is somewhat of a generic statement.
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01-13-2012, 02:20 PM
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And if you went to a few shops that couldn't fix it, don't go to them again.
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01-13-2012, 06:18 PM
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01-13-2012, 06:34 PM
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Give the compression releases a pull... 
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01-13-2012, 06:38 PM
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He would tell us that it is impossible for an S&S motor to not be perfect because it was not touched by a "slope". He will then remind us for the 100th time, that he knows because he went S&S University. |
01-13-2012, 06:42 PM
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He would tell us that it is impossible for an S&S motor to not be perfect because it was not touched by a "slope". He will then remind us for the 100th time, that he knows because he went S&S University. |
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01-13-2012, 09:04 PM
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more details...more details...more details
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01-14-2012, 08:49 AM
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Sometimes it is still hot when I try to start it, sometimes not. It cranks over well but doesn't appear to fire adequately. After few attempts, I just get clicking, and It's done. Always hit the comp. heads
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01-17-2012, 05:30 PM
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I have a 111S&S with a Super "G" carb and was always having problems getting it started. After going thru the whole charging system, new battery, coil and putting a new voltage regulator in it I still had problems. Eventually I changed the spark plugs and cured all the problems. The Super "G" seems to foul my plugs real easily and I have to pay attention and make sure they stay clean. Bike runs great now. Doesn't seem to make a difference which spark plug I use as long as they stay clean.
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01-18-2012, 09:24 AM
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He would tell us that it is impossible for an S&S motor to not be perfect because it was not touched by a "slope". He will then remind us for the 100th time, that he knows because he went S&S University. |
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01-18-2012, 10:23 AM
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1 problem that electronic ignitions have always had is that the spark is very fast making it hard starting unless all the planets are aligned. Some of the more expensive ignitions overcome this with multiple spark. The other thing is, a hot motor thats hard to start is an indication of weak rings or leaky valves. Another problem that could exist is that s+s carbs are known to overcharge the cylinders with gas both when you shut down and when you try to start, using the choke. A warm motor with a s+s carb will never need choke to start, if it does need choke, you have either leaks or a compression problem.
My opinion is this; make sure the timing is right, the plugs are right, shut the gas off then shut down the motor (not the other way around)even let it run a second or two before you shut it down. When you start it, no choke and crank the throttle just a wee bit and I mean just a wee bit. Your motor should come to life when the #1 piston comes up the second time, the first piston rotation should charge the cylinder with gas and on the second rotation it should fire.
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01-18-2012, 03:51 PM
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all i remember when i ran a 113...the plugs ran clean all the time...and when hot a push of starter button fired up in blink of an eye;;;id think if your plugs are getting fouled...jetting might be a place to start'''''''''im just curious whats the jetting and exhaust
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