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Old 02-02-2006, 09:36 PM
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EPA laws retro back to 1979

Read about this in a couple of trade publications.
Even read it in the HD tech bulitins back in 79. HD warned of changing carbs and pipes back then would be in violation of federal law.
From what I have gathered, many in the industry think the Gov is going to crack down and force 1979 and later bikes to be compliant.
I am glad I hung on to the 65 pan!

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They are going to have to change my pipes for me, cause I ain't doing it!

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Re: EPA laws retro back to 1979

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Read about this in a couple of trade publications.
Even read it in the HD tech bulitins back in 79. HD warned of changing carbs and pipes back then would be in violation of federal law.
From what I have gathered, many in the industry think the Gov is going to crack down and force 1979 and later bikes to be compliant.
I am glad I hung on to the 65 pan!

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im sure harley would say that if they changed your bike, the bike would be legal. i know a lot of people around here say occ sucks, but im startin to think its harley who sucks
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Old 02-02-2006, 11:28 PM
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Regulations can't be made to be retroactive.
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Old 02-02-2006, 11:38 PM
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I doubt we will see any serious crack down on this stuff. In the hotrod community the same shyte has been going on for years. The law on hotrods states that only t-buckets are allowed to run without fenders and blinkers. And yet every spring and summer time thousands of fenderless rods (not t-buckets) in San Diego roll out of garages and cruise without being hassled.

My friend Mike has been building hotrods for 14 years. He told me it's all b.s. and politics, and if it were a real problem he'd have quit doing it ten years ago. $10k fines --my ass.
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Neither the feds., state or locals have the money to enforce these laws. All branches of gov. at all levels are cutting back, which is a good thing anyway. They have more things to worry about than to go around harrassing bikers, like illegals crossing the borders.
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Old 02-03-2006, 05:06 AM
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My Dad out in OR heard on the news that a couple shops in Cali got slapped over those regs, but he doesn't remember any details (Feds, Staters, whatever). If true, most of these trends start in Cali and work east.

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Old 02-03-2006, 07:11 AM
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my guess - and ONLY a guess- is that at rallyies you may get harassed more. in laconia the cops go apeshit for that week pulling anyone over they can. now they have more incentive. but for the normal rider, i'm sure some will get harassed, but i am going on the idea that if you don't draw EVERYONE's attention by flaunting everything, you'd be all right. even if they give you a fine, fight it. make em earn it and show you proof of it. that's why there's always a stock set of pipes lying around ..........
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Old 02-03-2006, 07:15 AM
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my next personal bike is gonna be a CM bike, registered with the feds.

it may take VA years to actually start checking, or it may never happen. just cause its only supposed to be ridden to a show...doesnt mean you local govt is gonna even pay attention...or know that.

when i get my first ticket...i will take the bikes CM title seriously...till then who gives a flying fuck.

it may be 2/5/10 years before VA even starts checking that shit.

the feds can cry all they want, but the local guys are the actual enforcers...ands they got other things to do.

so my bike is a CM...what does joe local even know about that? besides if your at daytona...cant you come up with a show your on the way to?

shit they dont even know if a bike needs turn signals, they never check anything. my advice is grow some balls...push it to the limit.

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Old 02-03-2006, 07:27 AM
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so if i EVER finish this frigging bike, and i live in boston and want to go to the hollister rally, can i start riding in like feb and take a very long route to get to the rally? i'd be going to a show, correct?

fuckers.
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Old 02-03-2006, 07:29 AM
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sounds good to me
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Old 02-03-2006, 07:32 AM
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shit i dont carry a title around anyway. if i get pulled, and get a ticket for speeding....what the hell does that have to do with the feds. they'll never know....unless they hire about 20,000 employees and create a gestapo. dont see it happening any time soon.
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....my advice is grow some balls...push it to the limit. [/b]
That's what I say.

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Old 02-03-2006, 08:03 AM
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i carry a registration, it has no place for a cm designation.
the cop wont even know. deal with it in your own way folks.
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