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Lowering Strut question

Hey guys,

Im a fan of the speed king racing shovelhead soft-tails and Ive noticed that he uses these custom made struts on some of his builds.

Ive asked him if he sells them but, unfortunately he does not.

after carefully looking at them though, it "looks" like the center is just a solid machined piece with threaded ends that accept heim joints?

Does anyone here now of someone who makes something similar?







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Hey guys,

Im a fan of the speed king racing shovelhead soft-tails and Ive noticed that he uses these custom made struts on some of his builds.

Ive asked him if he sells them but, unfortunately he does not.

after carefully looking at them though, it "looks" like the center is just a solid machined piece with threaded ends that accept heim joints?

Does anyone here now of someone who makes something similar?







I have 12 “shocks , bike sits pretty low.
There are shorter shocks. Why would you loose the suspension?
Also, there are air shocks that go up and down.

But if you insist on struts. McMaster Carr sells rod joints 1/2x20, with eye for typical Harley shock bolts, 1/2 “ for under $10 .

Speedy metals.com can cut you tubes, you would need 7/16 ID to thread 1/2” x20.
OD could be anything, but no need for too thick. Vertical load.

If they have aluminum tubes with 7/16 ID and 1/8” wall thicknessat least- I would go for that.
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I have 12 “shocks , bike sits pretty low.
There are shorter shocks. Why would you loose the suspension?
Also, there are air shocks that go up and down.

But if you insist on struts. McMaster Carr sells rod joints 1/2x20, with eye for typical Harley shock bolts, 1/2 “ for under $10 .

Speedy metals.com can cut you tubes, you would need 7/16 ID to thread 1/2” x20.
OD could be anything, but no need for too thick. Vertical load.

If they have aluminum tubes with 7/16 ID and 1/8” wall thicknessat least- I would go for that.
Thanks man! I’ll look into that! I’m running 11” lowering shocks on mine at the moment...(see pic at bottom) would like it to run a little lower.

As for comfort? There isn’t any. Guess I have “cheep-o” Shocks, but that thing has maybe a 1/4” of travel at best.
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Thanks man! I’ll look into that! I’m running 11” lowering shocks on mine at the moment...(see pic at bottom) would like it to run a little lower.

As for comfort? There isn’t any. Guess I have “cheep-o” Shocks, but that thing has maybe a 1/4” of travel at best.
I got the kraftech swing arm on my little bobber with adjustable bottom shock mount. I had decent progressive shocks from prior project . They went perfect with the most angled mounting.



Look also how I have shocks on my suspended chopper. The angle is more radical than the rake

And they are working just fine.

I still like this European FLH better than speed kings.
Short shocks. Look how low.
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Old 06-24-2020, 06:32 AM
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I like that FLH BTW. and that rake on your chop is rad! love it!

I like the Kraft Tech, but would like to keep the OG swing arm.

Im looking at the McMaster Carr website you recommended and its awesome! Im assuming that if I want it to be at 10", I would need to get a threaded rod about thats around 6" long and 2 female end joints (each are about 2-1/8") so that theres an overall length of 10" from eye to eye right.

And the speedy metals tube would essentially be just a hollow sleeve/tube that covers the threaded rod?

But damn...since I would need like 2 tubes, 2 rods, 4 rod ends, shipping and tax etc...im looking at almost $100 to do the struts like that! the kraft-tech swing arm is around $200 and I get to keep my shocks....hmm...sounds like the adjustable swing arm is a better deal in the long run then.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Kraft-Tech-...3bce%7Ciid%3A1
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I like that FLH BTW. and that rake on your chop is rad! love it!

I like the Kraft Tech, but would like to keep the OG swing arm.

Im looking at the McMaster Carr website you recommended and its awesome! Im assuming that if I want it to be at 10", I would need to get a threaded rod about thats around 6" long and 2 female end joints (each are about 2-1/8") so that theres an overall length of 10" from eye to eye right.

And the speedy metals tube would essentially be just a hollow sleeve/tube that covers the threaded rod?

But damn...since I would need like 2 tubes, 2 rods, 4 rod ends, shipping and tax etc...im looking at almost $100 to do the struts like that! the kraft-tech swing arm is around $200 and I get to keep my shocks....hmm...sounds like the adjustable swing arm is a better deal in the long run then.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Kraft-Tech-...3bce%7Ciid%3A1
No, only male Heim joints needed, And tubing with ID AS close AS POSSIBLE TO .5431( 29/64) . 7/16 is 28/64 , that will do. Aluminum would be cool, with at least .125 wall thickness . Steel is fine too. You thread inside the ends of the tube to accept male heim joints. Height can be adjusted, locked with 2 nuts

Look for both on eBay. Can be much cheaper.

Check this out. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pan-Hard-4-....c100008.m2219

And this
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Steel-Tubin...EAAMXQfvlSiQfY

Total $ is $60.

Make sure I,m. I,m correct about shock bolts size to be 1/2”
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No, only male Heim joints needed, And tubing with ID AS close AS POSSIBLE TO .5431( 29/64) . 7/16 is 28/64 , that will do. Aluminum would be cool, with at least .125 wall thickness . Steel is fine too. You thread inside the ends of the tube to accept male heim joints. Height can be adjusted, locked with 2 nuts

Look for both on eBay. Can be much cheaper.

Check this out. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pan-Hard-4-....c100008.m2219

And this
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Steel-Tubin...EAAMXQfvlSiQfY

Total $ is $60.

Make sure I,m. I,m correct about shock bolts size to be 1/2”

Thanks man! thats great help!

would you think just going with 10.5" sportster shocks would work better? I feel like 11" is not quite low enough, but 10" is perfect.
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thanks man! Thats great help!

Would you think just going with 10.5" sportster shocks would work better? I feel like 11" is not quite low enough, but 10" is perfect.
why not if the weight rating allows. It might need to be on the highest preload setting not to sag. THE ANGLE OF THE SHOCK ,MAY ALSO CHANGE THE WAY IT OPERATES.
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Do your self a favor and keep the shocks, unless you like beating your self up for nothing.
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Do your self a favor and keep the shocks, unless you like beating your self up for nothing.
Agree, that,s why I built a chopper with full suspension and rubber mounted engine- it rides like. Cadillac , and also rebuilt my rigid into an FLH, ( well to be honest- to me FLH based bike is cooler)
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