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Good eye on that regulator wire, both of you, the battery wasn't even protected " wasn't paying attention" Ignition would go to your module and to + on the coils, fused of course. The starter button would hook to the primary coils on the solenoid " if you not using the relay"
The thick wire from the battery to the solenoid is hooked to the solenoid contacts "secondary circuit" it draws about 100 amps through there when it connects to the starter.....The starter button hooks to the solenoid primary circuit, "only a couple of amps through there, "that's why you don't need the relay" a starter button can handle that kind of current
For a two wire ignition switch "that means one wire in from the battery, and one hot wire out
would have to go to the module and then on to the coils. Lights would have to have their own switch, and you would have to have a starter button.
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Here,s the schematics apparently reflecting your situation with details of the starter relay:
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/633107660099535650/
Ignore charging wire going to wrong post of 30 A and ignore 3 post ign switch- you simply unite acc and ign on your one post.
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06-15-2020, 05:57 PM
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Thanks guys! I looked over the diagrams you guys suggested and mashed up ideas....and came up with this...
(hopefully its ok)
let me know if I got anything mixed up or missing.
Also, silly question but won't the battery drain its charge if the voltage regulator is constantly on the positive terminal of the battery?
HOWEVER....
another person suggested this:
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06-22-2020, 03:41 PM
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No it will not drain the battery since the regulator contains diodes which act as an open circuit
until they are activated.
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06-23-2020, 01:01 AM
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Quote:
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No it will not drain the battery since the regulator contains diodes which act as an open circuit
until they are activated.
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Respectfully disagree . Ideally it,s fine. But, a leaky diode(known entity) can allow current to drain out of the battery through the alternator when the vehicle is not being driven.
Therefore, I would not connect rectifier directly into a circuit . But interrupt it at the ignition key- a simple insurance , like turning off the petcock- it also ideally shouldn’t leak if plunger is seated right.
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Respectfully disagree . Ideally it,s fine. But, a leaky diode(known entity) can allow current to drain out of the battery through the alternator when the vehicle is not being driven.
Therefore, I would not connect rectifier directly into a circuit . But interrupt it at the ignition key- a simple insurance , like turning off the petcock- it also ideally shouldn’t leak if lumber is seated right.
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Yes , very good, but I think the reason that Harley probably doesn't do that is because the switch would have to handle at least 20 amps while charging at idle,
upward from there, unless you wanted to stick a relay in there. Maybe those switches can handle that , I don't know
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Thanks guys....I finally resolved the wiring problem...heres the final diagram. I tested it out and everything works!
Im now organizing, cutting, soldering and getting it to look better but, Thanks for all the help!
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Yes , very good, but I think the reason that Harley probably doesn't do that is because the switch would have to handle at least 20 amps while charging at idle,
upward from there, unless you wanted to stick a relay in there. Maybe those switches can handle that , I don't know
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I have done it different from Harley forever. My 30 amp pep boys ignition keys handle everything and disconnect everything . And it,s right by my ass- so I can restart the bike if stalled or scratch my ass in self reflection pissing off other motorists ...
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127"Ultima, Chassis Design rigid 2013 bobber
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Wiring diagram
Shovelhead wiring diagram
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Thanks guys....I finally resolved the wiring problem...heres the final diagram. I tested it out and everything works!
Im now organizing, cutting, soldering and getting it to look better but, Thanks for all the help!
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So, did this one correct and work out for you?
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lol
Find a biker who knows how to wire Harleys.
Let him do the work.
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