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Old 09-14-2005, 09:36 AM
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Good all-purpose airbrush?

Iím looking into the many available airbrushes. (like I need a new hobby) I would like to get one for now, that can be used for detail and coverage. I am considering an Iwata Eclipse CS. (.35mm dual action, gravity feed, internal mix) I can get one for about $120. Any thoughts or suggestions from the paint gurus?
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Old 09-14-2005, 09:40 AM
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eclipses are good units....i go through 'em pretty fast, but its my No 1 all purpose brush.... If you want to go cheaper, the Revolutions are right in that same neighborhood as far as spray pattern/control, etc....all Iwatas are top notch shit though.
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Old 09-14-2005, 09:53 AM
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i say buy a Paasche VL kit......around 60 bucks and includes 3 tips /needles...fine- med -heavy....thats 3 combos from one gun... .that kit is still the best bang for the buck...bveen buying em for 30 years
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eclipses are good units....i go through 'em pretty fast, but its my No 1 all purpose brush.... If you want to go cheaper, the Revolutions are right in that same neighborhood as far as spray pattern/control, etc....all Iwatas are top notch shit though.
You say you go through them fast. Do they wear out fast? Iím curious what to expect.
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Iwata Eclipse CS

I honestly prefer the Iwata Eclipse. That thing can do it all. I started out with a cheaper model that was advertised as being just as good. I learned fast that was not the case. I went to Coast airbrush and was able to get a CS for 109. Check them out and see if you find anything that you like. www.coastairbrush.com
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I have an Iwata HPSB dual action model, its a few years old, hardly used, i needed it for my graphic arts classes in college, very good brush, pro quality, i would like to sell it....PM me if you are interested. I have a whack of paint (gouche) which I think is still good to....& hose
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Old 09-14-2005, 12:39 PM
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i say buy a Paasche VL kit......around 60 bucks and includes 3 tips /needles...fine- med -heavy....thats 3 combos from one gun... .that kit is still the best bang for the buck...bveen buying em for 30 years
I second the Paasche. I abused one for years (as a hobbyist, not professional painter) and it never let me down. I have a Iwata HP-B now. I haven't used it much and only put latex through it so far. It's ok. Clogs easy with the Createx paints.
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Old 09-14-2005, 04:13 PM
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My only reason for not getting the Paasche would be the siphon feed. I could see potential for the big bottle getting in the way. Is that not the case? What are the benefits of a gravity feed vs. siphon?
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HPC would be my choice. I have a whole bunch of Paasche's. They are good for doing T shirts. I used them for 10 years. But with automotive paint they clog more often, atleast for me they did.I like HP-BC's and HPC's They are great airbrushes. more money but better control.

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PK.......you might have mixed the automotives to thick. I airbrush all day long using white with out ever a spit never mind a clog....so i guess its all in individual style and technique.........the VL is a great gun....but then again i can make any airbrush work.....you just have to know how to control your medium.....i still use the VL as my main gun........it does kick some seriouse ass......and i can see thru your work your gun does some seriouse butt kicking also...hehehehe
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I have a HPC and love it. I'm not saying that it's better than any other, & yes there is better. It was my first "quality" airbrush and I've just never changed. I feel comfortable with it and I guess that's the main reason for not changing.
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yeah...they do seem to wear out on me. I think there is a teflon bearing and o-ring kit that is solvent proof...it might extend the life....plus, on the eclipse I'm not really into spending hours disassembing and cleaning....I'll do it on my HP-Cs, but for the eclipse, it's less hassle to break a new one out!

I agree with the other guys on the HP-C....awesome brush, but I wouldn't consider it an 'all around' ...its more for detail work and you do have to over-reduce somewhat.

The eclipse has a big enough needle/nozzle combo that you can pretty much do anything you want with it...and it will spray pearls and metallics without clogging....it will go down to a hairline if you need it...and it will also cover moderate sized areas when you pull back some....

oh yeah, another reputable place to buy from:

www.dixieart.com good service, free shipping, fast
(but they are in Louisiana so I don't know if they have been affected by the 'cane or not)
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Thanks for all the input. Now itís time to play.
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