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Alternative Application of Metal Flake Question

I'd Like to apply metal flake flames on a gas tank I just finished painting and I have a question on alternatives on how to apply the metal flake without using a traditional spray gun.

Ive heard and seen some examples where people just sprinkle it on wet paint either using a salt & pepper shaker or blowing it on with a straw....but seems like you would have to time that pretty well since paint can dry or tack up fairly quickly now.

since it would be on a limited space (the flames) and not the entire gas tank, One idea came to mind was to apply gold leaf adhesive to the flames and then sprinkling on the flake. then after spray a 2k clear coat.

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I painted my shovel tank metal flake flames by the sprinkle method using a rattle can of clear lacquer and a salt shaker, it came out great, finished each layer with urethane clear to make it gas resistant..this is way easier than using a gun, for me anyway..Here is a photo of it partially finished, I am thinking about scrapping it, or taking the last layer off, I am not as good as Horny Mike yet..

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I painted my shovel tank metal flake flames by the sprinkle method using a rattle can of clear lacquer and a salt shaker, it came out great, finished each layer with urethane clear to make it gas resistant..this is way easier than using a gun, for me anyway..Here is a photo of it partially finished, I am thinking about scrapping it, or taking the last layer off, I am not as good as Horny Mike yet..

damn dude! thats awesome! you definitely inspired me to do the S&P shaker method.
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The yellow is vinyl by the way, which you have to put on wet. You can pull up some flames on your computer screen and size it using Photoshop ..tape your tracing paper to the screen and trace them out. Unless you are a pro with a pin stripe brush which is most difficult , you can just free hand your pin striping out of vinyl with a razor blade..very easy... I think the yellow is too loud..I think if I went with one more layer of red metal flake to tone down the yellow and accent "finish" the tips then the job will look ok..
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nice! i didnt notice if it was vinyl or not.

Ive done flames before with a spray gun mixed with clear, but that was more than 10 years ago when I had the tools.



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I think Im going to approach these new flames the same way, after I lay down the flames with 1/8" tape, I'll mask off the non-flame area and then apply a blue base coat.

...then, while the blue is wet, ill sprinkle the flake over that. wait like 5min.-10min. and then apply a light coat of 2K clear. sprinkling on more flake as you suggested until the entire area is covered.

Finally, ill apply a last coat of clear to seal the deal.

one question...does the added weight of the flake on the wet clear cause it to easily drip?
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Nice job on the flames, nice crisp edges without having to pin stripe to cover ragged edges..no
it won't drip on you I guess unless you spray too heavily. I started out using the 2k clear coat
in an air brush to work with the flake, but quickly substituted the rattle can lacquer,"way more convenient" and it dries in a couple of minutes..plus if you are overlapping flames , it is much more labor intensive , so you need that quick drying....it looks like you probably used a finer grade metal flake is the reason yours looks smoother on the edges..nice job, you won't have any problems..
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Thanks man! almost finished laying the flames. I ran out of 1/8" tape and need to order some more (viral pandemics put a hold on things these days).
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Found some better 1/8" tape and redid the flames...i like them better now

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Cool, be sure to post a picture when you are finished and let us know how the job went, then maybe you can show us how to do some waving flag stuff like those guys do on tv. They make it look easy..I have a stack of templates back there, skulls, spiders, snakes, Albert Einstein,"my favorite" I wove all of that in between the flames on my last job on my Road star, wish I had pictures of that one. a lot of people taking pictures of that one at the last rally..That's what it's all about aint it? ...
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Cool, be sure to post a picture when you are finished and let us know how the job went, then maybe you can show us how to do some waving flag stuff like those guys do on tv. They make it look easy..I have a stack of templates back there, skulls, spiders, snakes, Albert Einstein,"my favorite" I wove all of that in between the flames on my last job on my Road star, wish I had pictures of that one. a lot of people taking pictures of that one at the last rally..That's what it's all about aint it? ...
will do! I actually learned how to do them from that first Motorcycle Mania episode with Jesse James...I watched that a bunch of times where the guy does the flames.

I just finished masking it up...I forgot how much freaking work goes into doing that!

Those templates sound awesome! giving me Ideas for the next one! haha
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posted in black and white to take away the blue tape around the flame...



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Yes, that's awesome, I should have stuck to something along those lines..
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well, just slayed it all down...I can tell its not as evenly done as if it were done with a spray gun but its not terrible...theres some areas where the flake covers completely and tiny areas that it doesn't.
also, Its looking like im going to need a shit ton of clear to get the surface smooth. but little by little I suppose.

here's what it looks like as of now.

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Masking tape coming off

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