Club Chopper Forums ychrome  

Go Back   Club Chopper Forums > Painters/Seats/Chop Parts/General Distributors > Mike Learn Airbrush & Design

Welcome to Club Chopper!  The World's largest and coolest place to be on the net if you dig the following!

  •  » Custom Bikes
  •  » Killer Paint
  •  » Old School Craftsmanship
  •  » Building and Wrenching
  •  » Hot Babes
  •  » Chopper Build Logs

...then you have come to the right place!

YES! I want to register an account for free right now!  p.s.: For registered members this ad will NOT show

Chopper Tech
Tech Article
Tech Article
Tech Article
Tech Article
Tech Article
Main Menu
Module Jump:
Club Chop Gallery

Club Chopper Gallery

Submit Your Photos!

Active Threads
6 Solo Seat Cover Needed
Last Post: jortegaa3289
Posted On: Today
Replies: 3
Views: 1,234
American Ironhorse Outlaw Electrical issue.
Last Post: JamesS
Posted On: 11-29-2021
Replies: 1
Views: 59
21" Doom Front wheel needed
Last Post: LorenzoHD
Posted On: 11-26-2021
Replies: 13
Views: 2,923
Evil Bitch
Last Post: Choppa
Posted On: 11-26-2021
Replies: 406
Views: 98,780
Brembo brake ID
Last Post: golfish
Posted On: 11-24-2021
Replies: 2
Views: 110
More...
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 04-04-2005, 07:32 AM
Head Roller's Avatar
Club Chopper Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Lafayette, CO
Bike Year, Make, Engine: Custom HD Conversion
Posts: 371
Not Ranked     
Thumbs down A Modern Day Lynching

I received a request to sign a petition in my email today. The petition is based on an AP Wire story from March 22 that reads:

Below is a news article of the incident.
Posted on Tue, Mar. 22, 2005, Associated Press:

"LISBON, Conn. - A state trooper was suspended for 15 days without pay after he was recorded on a 911 tape saying "too bad" to a caller seeking help for a man injured in a motorcycle accident.

State police said the dismissive answer by Trooper Robert Peasley did not affect the response time to the accident involving Justin Sawyer, 21, who died of a severe head injury a week after the crash last August. Peasley was suspended on Monday.

Russell Shepard, a friend of Sawyer's, called 911, which was routed to the state police barracks in Montville. When he reported the accident, Peasley said, "Yeah ... too bad," and hung up, according to a tape obtained by WTNH-TV.

Shepard said he was shocked, believing he reached a wrong number.

Another friend made a second call. "Yeah," the officer responded. "Help will get there. Shouldn't be playing games."

A third emergency call was answered by a different dispatcher, who asked about Sawyer's condition and advised those nearby to not touch him.

"I am absolutely outraged every time I hear that `too bad' and then click," said Sawyer's father, Jim Sawyer. "I only know that I would have felt a whole lot more comfortable if I had heard people responding on the end of that 911 call with some heart and caring."

State police said the comments by Peasley, an 18-year-veteran, were unprofessional, and the agency apologized if "our actions added to the family's pain.""

While this story is appalling, the point of my post is the petition. This petition asked me to sign saying that i think the officer should be forced to resign, give up his benefits, pay a fine and do jail time. I was asked to sentence him based on a few lines from the press.

In my opionion.. this call to action is nothing more than a modern day lynching. A bunch of highly emotional people taking out some sort of vigilante justice without so much as hearing a word from the other side. GRANTED our legal system is flawed, at best, but it is still the best there is, and I, for one, though I bitch and complain, am not ready to throw it out the door for this very reason. Maybe the officer deserves what the petition is calling for, but lets hear the story before we sentence him.
__________________
Diana Learn
Learn Industries

Home of LearnAirbrush.com ,
Mike Learn Airbrush & Design
and
Learn Guitars

Shop Phone: 303.828.0370
Fax: 303.945.7945
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 04-04-2005, 07:43 AM
Spaz's Avatar
Club Chopper Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Downingtown, PA
Bike Year, Make, Engine: Up in flames
Posts: 527
Not Ranked     
I heard the call....the officer who answerd the phone was an asshole. He should at least be fired. I am not sure about jail time though, but he should be beaten to a bloody pulp. What an ass this guy is.
__________________
You choose to live on your knees, I'd rather die on my feet.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 04-04-2005, 07:48 AM
Ralph D's Avatar
'03 AIH/113" S&S
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Langhorne, PA, PA
Bike Year, Make, Engine: 2003 AIH 113"
Posts: 3,446
Not Ranked     
Here's some more info on the subject:

According to a Newsday.com article "The trooper hung up on the caller because he apparently thought he had received several other calls about the same incident. But Boyle said the investigation showed that the call from the friend was the first Troop E received for that accident. It also showed that Peasley was rude to a second caller who reported the accident, telling him Sawyer "shouldn't have been riding that way."

A little digging revealed that state Trooper Robert Peasley (phone number (860) 848-6500) was the highest paid officer in 2003, earning over $143,000 in annual wages. Quoting a Conneticut State Police Alumni Association website "...the highest-paid trooper, Robert C. Peasley Jr., made more than $47,000 in overtime in 2003 by working at highway construction jobs. That means he worked more than 80 hours a week to take home $143,000 in annual wages, state police said."

For that kind of money he should be doing his job correctly. If he is too tired and cranky then he shouldn't be worrking 80 hours a week. I don't care how the person got injured, no one should be treated like that!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 04-04-2005, 08:31 AM
Club Chopper Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Wetumpka, AL
Bike Year, Make, Engine: 01 HD Ultra, 02 Buell X1
Posts: 47
Not Ranked     
In my opion it doesn't matter how much money his making he decided to take a position to help and provent harm coming to other people. The way he acted was wrong and while I dont thank jail time might help it needs to be something more than 15 days. Probably the best think would be to fire him because why should we think this would not happen again. While the news said the time daley did not kill the boy next time the person might need that extra time that was lost. Just my opion though.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 04-04-2005, 08:51 AM
LSCTommy's Avatar
CC Member/Contributor
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Detroit, Oh
Bike Year, Make, Engine: AIH LSC/ Police Electraglide
Posts: 3,353
Not Ranked     
This thread is a prime example of why no one should pass judgement on anyone until one has all the facts. All the facts are something you will NEVER get from the media. The media does not sell facts and could care less about justice. They sell newspapers and reality t.v. shows. IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY, always was, always will be.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 04-04-2005, 09:00 AM
Head Roller's Avatar
Club Chopper Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Lafayette, CO
Bike Year, Make, Engine: Custom HD Conversion
Posts: 371
Not Ranked     
Quote:
Originally posted by LSCTommy
This thread is a prime example of why no one should pass judgement on anyone until one has all the facts. All the facts are something you will NEVER get from the media. The media does not sell facts and could care less about justice. They sell newspapers and reality t.v. shows. IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY, always was, always will be.
The point I was trying to make when posting this. Thanks.
__________________
Diana Learn
Learn Industries

Home of LearnAirbrush.com ,
Mike Learn Airbrush & Design
and
Learn Guitars

Shop Phone: 303.828.0370
Fax: 303.945.7945
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 04-04-2005, 09:20 AM
Spaz's Avatar
Club Chopper Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Downingtown, PA
Bike Year, Make, Engine: Up in flames
Posts: 527
Not Ranked     
The fact is, I heard the actual call from several different sources. The call was the same each time. The guy is an asshole and should be fired!! Obviously he was in the wrong if he was suspended.
__________________
You choose to live on your knees, I'd rather die on my feet.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 04-04-2005, 10:04 AM
LSCTommy's Avatar
CC Member/Contributor
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Detroit, Oh
Bike Year, Make, Engine: AIH LSC/ Police Electraglide
Posts: 3,353
Not Ranked     
All you heard was a slice of dialog that was only a part of this guys whole day. Remember this, Lawyers make a living by making white look like black and black look like white, just like the media.
ITS NOT ABOUT THE TRUTH OR ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK YOU HEARD.
ITS ABOUT MONEY!!!!!!!

He was suspended because that was the politically correct thing to do.

Last edited by LSCTommy; 04-04-2005 at 10:08 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 04-04-2005, 10:14 AM
Spaz's Avatar
Club Chopper Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Downingtown, PA
Bike Year, Make, Engine: Up in flames
Posts: 527
Not Ranked     
I heard the phone call(s) all of them, not just a slice, but the entire calls.....I don't care what he did the rest of the day, what does that have to do with anything?? The guy was wrong. It was a call for help and it is his job to help, not hang up the phone.
__________________
You choose to live on your knees, I'd rather die on my feet.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 04-04-2005, 10:15 AM
Phantom's Avatar
Club Chopper Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Wasilla, AK
Bike Year, Make, Engine: 2006 RSD 300
Posts: 3,928
Not Ranked     
Quote:
Originally posted by LSCTommy

He was suspended because that was the politically correct thing to do.
I don't know if I would make that assumption. He had already been on suspension several days before the story leaked. I think that supervisors do not want an entire department to be looked upon badly and the susension was so they had time to do a review to make sure that the officer didn't contribute to harm.
I don't think that the officer's behavior made any difference in the survival of the injured boy. I do think that he most likely handled himself in a manner that warrants further investigation.
I also believe that if I called up Walmart and one of their employees treated me this badly and I complained to a manager and the conversation was on tape. The employee would most likely be fired.
Not for nothing, but I think officers need to be held to an even higher standard. They demand respect by position, why not earn it as people.
__________________
www.PhantomChoppers.com

Last edited by Phantom; 04-04-2005 at 10:18 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 04-04-2005, 10:22 AM
Ralph D's Avatar
'03 AIH/113" S&S
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Langhorne, PA, PA
Bike Year, Make, Engine: 2003 AIH 113"
Posts: 3,446
Not Ranked     
It is also his job to tell the people at the scene of the accident what to do or in the case what not to do. Many people do not know how to handle situations involving head and neck trauma. Or at the very least give them reassurance that help is on the way and try to keep them calm.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 04-04-2005, 10:27 AM
Club Chopper Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: kjhg, mi
Posts: 149
Not Ranked     
Re: A Modern Day Lynching

...the 113, what's wrong with them?

Last edited by zdub; 08-25-2007 at 10:05 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 04-04-2005, 10:31 AM
Spaz's Avatar
Club Chopper Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Downingtown, PA
Bike Year, Make, Engine: Up in flames
Posts: 527
Not Ranked     
Re: Re: A Modern Day Lynching

Quote:
Originally posted by zdub
totally agree
I agree as well....Except it's well deserved.....Has anyone actually heard these calls, I am just wondering not trying to start anything.
__________________
You choose to live on your knees, I'd rather die on my feet.
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 04-04-2005, 10:37 AM
Club Chopper Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Gilbert, az
Bike Year, Make, Engine: 2001 Exile, 2005 Exile, 2005 Victory
Posts: 108
Not Ranked     
I say fuck the petition get a lawyer. As for the outcome it more then likely would not be changed, but the cop was a dickhead and could of at least treated it like a serious event. But to lynch the guy fire him, no pension etc. He gave 19 years of his life to save others, retire him early or put him at a desk. Dont ruin his family as I said the outcome for the boy who died remains the same.
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 04-04-2005, 11:12 AM
LSCTommy's Avatar
CC Member/Contributor
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Detroit, Oh
Bike Year, Make, Engine: AIH LSC/ Police Electraglide
Posts: 3,353
Not Ranked     
It is not his job to access the scene, he is not at the scene. His job is to accumulate as much pertinent information as possible and to convey that information to emergency personel. You have already made my point. You are making ASSUMPTIONS on that which you do not know. You are passing judgement based on faulty information.

REMEMBER THE RODNEY KING TAPES. THAT BEATING WAS CAUGHT ON VIDEO TAPE. HOW SOON WE FORGET.

YEA; HE WAS JUST SOME POOR BLACK GUY THE COPS JUST FELT LIKE BEATING THE SHIT OUT OF.

YEA RIGHT; I'LL BELIEVE ANYTHING THE MEDIA TELLS ME. YEA THEY HAVE SO MUCH CREDIBLITY.

Last edited by LSCTommy; 04-04-2005 at 11:19 AM..
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:33 PM.


vBulletin skins developed by: eXtremepixels
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0

CC Policy

The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubchopper.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners or moderators. clubchopper.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you or have been given the expressed written consent to post. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). For full policy, please click the "CC policy" link. Thank you for visiting the clubchopper.com
Links monetized by VigLink