Metric shaft to chain conversion???

[streetchop]

I saw a post here where a guy converted his shaft drive to a chain and sprocket. Anybody got a story on converting a V Star to a chain?

[Bluto5]

I would like to know too.
A link to a "how to" would be nice.
But, it's probably a secret .
There are a few guys here that help.
Most read the post and move on.

[Poop]

Originally Posted by Bluto5

I would like to know too.
A link to a "how to" would be nice.
But, it's probably a secret .
There are a few guys here that help.
Most read the post and move on.

you gotta remember, this site has been here a long time, and thousands and thousands of folks have posted about nearly everything under the sun. it's nice to be able to just ask a question and have it answered, but everyone here eventually loses interest in answering something that they've been in a discussion or debate about many times.

of course, that doesn't relate too much specifically to the original poster's question, but it does explain a little of what seems like apathy. if someone's asking a question that everyone knows they could find with a search, most folks do seem to move on. they've even gotten tired of saying "do a search." that doesn't mean "piss off" or don't even try to ask; it's just to let you know that this place isn't overrun with total apathy for all things chopped.

specifically to the shaft to chain drive conversion: i know donald branscomb's (not sure if i spelled it right) chop was a conversion, although i don't think it was a v-star. surely there are some ideas to be gleaned from his build, which i believe was well documented. a little hint towards that would be to find one of his posts (he posted in your thread about chopping a 1500, i think), click on his name, and select "list threads started by this dingaling."

then skim the list for his build thread. he's pretty thorough with words and all. like, really. i'm pretty sure you'll find some good information there on the conversion. if not, post your troubles here, and i'll try to help you out with a search when i have time... although i have no experience with that conversion.

so anyway, without trying to sound like a dick, i'd say "do a search."

[Poop]

well, i searched and couldn't find much, so i guess i need to help out a little more. it seems donald did the conversion a few years ago, and wanted to make a kit available to folks to do the same, but nobody wanted to even shell out a couple hundred dollars for his plans, which apparently was a pretty involved job.

seems like his outside web page he used to have up is gone now. i guess i can imagine his frustration, if he had hoped to make a little money back from his efforts. i can also see how folks trolling the internet for advice on home chop projects aren't looking to shell out cash for that advice. so i don't know if he will end up being a good source for y'all, or not.

beyond that, i don't think there's been much information on this site about an actual (rather than theoretical) conversion. if someone had done it, it's likely they would have posted about it here, because i imagine it's something to be proud of, and to show off. seems not to be done easily.

sorry i can't offer you any more help than that.

[Bluto5]

Tell ya what Poop...
You have been more help than you realize.
I didn't know Don tried with the "kit" idea.
It seems to me it would be a great idea for those "stretched" frames.
If he took the time to figure it all out, it IS worth paying for, IMO.
You've pointed the way, thank you !

[Neo Dutch]

Jedi from New Zealand built a conversion. It was a huge amount of work so unless you are wanting a much wider than stock rear tyre an extended shaft should do the trick.

[Tink]

Hi

There is some info on the XS11.com site which may help point you in the right direction. I did a search for you - LINKY

HTH

Tink

[donald branscom]

I would be happy to help anyone interested in converting to chain drive by offering advice.

The Suzuki 1400 intruder will not work because the transmission output is turning the wrong direction.

The Kawasaki 1500 V Twin will work.

If you want to just convert through a gearbox then the gearbox must be a spiral bevel drive. It is the only way the box can handle the torque.


The boxes available are at least 6 inches square in size.

The advantage of that method is that oil re routing in the final output of the driveshaft is not needed. The thing wrong with it is you still must keep 9 unreliable heavy parts(25 lbs!!) approximately. Also the clutch rod hydraulic actuator would not need modification.

[donald branscom]

Originally Posted by Bluto5

I would like to know too.
A link to a "how to" would be nice.
But, it's probably a secret .
There are a few guys here that help.
Most read the post and move on.

It is not that the "how to" is a secret. It is the detailed drawings and experience of oil re routing , clutch actuator rod separation, and machining and welding all have detailed specifications that need to be worked out.

For instance the Kawasaki has the shifting case, clutch activation and final drive gears all inside one case. Those three functions need to be separate.

It is easy to tell you how. But doing it, takes drawings and specifications that have to be worked out and tested to see if they actually work. If a part breaks during testing you and the bike could down at 60 mph from oil leakage.etc.,.

The "kit" I sold explained all of it, and supplied the drawing. But it took me three years to figure it all out. It eliminated 9 parts. required one machined hub, and one special welding modification to one of the cases. But the newer Kawasaki cruisers have belt drive and can be converted to chain drive much easier.

[donald branscom]

[quote=David O'Hanlon;1193207]Jedi from New Zealand built a conversion. It was a huge amount of work so unless you are wanting a much wider than stock rear tyre an extended shaft should do the trick.

[IMG]http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f202/Jedi-

This looks nice but I sure hope it is spiral bevel gears.

[streetchop]

thanky poop and donald for the info...way too much trouble for a 650 v star chop job. that shaft is a bad motherf*cker (shut yo mouth!)

[Neo Dutch]

[donald branscom]

Originally Posted by David O'Hanlon

Not sure why you are showing those parts.
Can you use some words to tell us what you are showing and why?

[Neo Dutch]

I posted a pic.



You repiled;

Originally Posted by donald branscom

This looks nice but I sure hope it is spiral bevel gears.

So I posted another pic in answer to your statement/question.



To which you replied;

Originally Posted by donald branscom

Not sure why you are showing those parts.
Can you use some words to tell us what you are showing and why?

My reply to that is.

[Barefoot Choppa]

Lmfao!!!!!!!!!!!!