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Old 10-12-2012, 08:08 AM
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Mig vs. Tig vs. Nothing

I'm looking to start my second build (well, first depending on how you look at it). My first build was a kit bike and turned out great. I'm very good with my hands and really understand bikes, but I have no welding experience and know little about it.

I would like to start my new build now and just tack in place different things I need (tank, seat, fender bungs, etc.,). I would like to purchase a welder to which I can do the tacking and then once things are tacked in place, take the frame to someone who can truly weld. At some point I would like to become proficient in welding so I can do things on my own.

Is this a good idea? If so, what type and capacity of welder should I get?

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Old 10-12-2012, 09:20 AM
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I would think you should get with someone that has both MIG and tig rigs and choose some one that really knows how they work. Then you can get some tube and sheetmetal you know the kinda stuff ya use to build a frame and practice, ask lots of questions and learn about the penatration of Ur welds then you can make an educated decision about your ability to tack. Really a tack should be part of the weld its important to understand where they go and how it effects the strength of the end product. Remember this is just the opinion of a redneck so do as ya like
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Old 10-12-2012, 10:33 AM
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This is just a suggestion based off what I did. I actually took a 2 month welding course at my local Boces school. The class goes through every method of welding from oxy acetaline to tig. The class is primarily setup to train you to become a certified structural steel welder. However my instructor was cool and knew I wasn't looking for a career change (already a union electrician) He allowed us to choose any welding method we wanted and let us have at it for weeks, just welding whatever we wanted, whichever way we wanted to. It was great b/c they supplied all the materials and machines, and I had someone who really knew what to do, watching over me critiquing my work and giving me pointers. I focused on tig b/c I wanted to learn how to weld all different types of material from steel to aluminium. It was also good b/c ithe class gave me better insight into which machine would best fit my needs. Don't get me wrong I'm no Jesse James after this experience but I'm confident in what I do and with welding the only way to get better is to keep doing it.
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Old 10-13-2012, 06:38 AM
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If your looking for an engine for you build, I have a Harley crate engine (new)
with the mso from HD and I would sell it for a pretty good deal. I'm right down the road about 30 miles from you.
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If your looking for an engine for you build, I have a Harley crate engine (new)
with the mso from HD and I would sell it for a pretty good deal. I'm right down the road about 30 miles from you.
I know ur not talkin to me but how much!!
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I would get a cheap mig welder from harbor freight and just tack the tabs and parts together then take it to someone who really knows how to tig and have him do it. Thats how I did my build. I own an auto repair shop and I own a mig welder to patch together things and mostly use it to remove broken studs and rounded off bolts. My friend who owns a body shop across the street has a really nice tig welder that he lets me use and mess around with. I still would never trust my welds on something as important as a frame or other part that would kill me when it failed at 100 mph. But I tacked tabs and mounts and had the "professional" tig them on for me.
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Old 10-14-2012, 03:49 AM
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to me tig is over rated...i use a MIG on every thing on my builds, from tank and frame modification to tabs....the nice thing about a MIG you can tackle any welding job with the change of the wire... look for a quality used MIG that a cheapy
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Thanks guys for the input. I have decided to do a little of everything. I will take the class that's offered at my local comminity college. Unfortunately, that doesn't start until January. However, I forgot that I have a friend who is great fabricator (owns his own business which does commercial design and construction work). He agreed to do the welds for me, but also teach me along the way.

I will probably get a mig once I have a better understanding of what I'm doing and what to look for.
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I would get a cheap mig welder from harbor freight and just tack the tabs and parts together then take it to someone who really knows how to tig and have him do it. Thats how I did my build. I own an auto repair shop and I own a mig welder to patch together things and mostly use it to remove broken studs and rounded off bolts. My friend who owns a body shop across the street has a really nice tig welder that he lets me use and mess around with. I still would never trust my welds on something as important as a frame or other part that would kill me when it failed at 100 mph. But I tacked tabs and mounts and had the "professional" tig them on for me.
Go to a real welding store and buy a welding machine.
That way you get good advice and the right equipment.

Of course taking a beginning welding course is the gold standard.
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Taking the course is definitely a good start but practice,practice,practice.You want it to become like riding a bike.
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Old 02-06-2013, 08:39 AM
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the welding part is important but whats more important is learning how to fit metals together prior to welding.
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i use both ig and tig as Red said so right!!!!!! butt welds are the go no gaps the joins need to be perfet i like to fill tubes with nitrogen then tig for true penetrtation and try to use the right the tools if you got the dough just what i do
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Wot he said.

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Mig for tacks, you can do it with one hand.then tig for the strongest,cleanest most beautiful weld ever.tig is over rated,come on pops
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