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erlobulldog 05-05-2020 03:30 PM

Softail Shovelhead Short Fender Ideas
 
So, Im looking to get rear fender ideas for my 1977 FXE softail.
I always thought that there was no hope in making these frames look good, but man...after seeing what Jeff Cochran of "Speed King Racing" can do with these frames, blows me away.

After giving it some thought, id like to revitalize my bike with a bit more of a budget and hopefully getting a similar look that Jeff has on his bikes.

As of now, Im running a stock 16" x 3.5" rear wire wheel and I just ordered a Shinko E270

Heres a few examples of the rear fender look im going for (more or less). Id love to just order one of his fenders and call it a day, but before I go drop close to $400 on one, Id like to hear your guys thoughts and opinions on what can be a cheaper and just as good looking alternative.

https://i.imgur.com/afzLDZxl.png

https://i.imgur.com/KkmuWzml.png

https://i.imgur.com/S1y8lsDl.png

https://i.imgur.com/b9QftFbl.png

https://i.imgur.com/Sesdkl9l.png

Captain America 05-05-2020 04:00 PM

It’s a very personal decision, I would say if you plan on riding the bike a lot then the more length on the fender the better unless you like that black/brown racing stripe up your back look.

I like this one the best...

https://i.imgur.com/Sesdkl9l.png

STEINBVG 05-05-2020 04:10 PM

Great topic!
 
Man, you hit the spot. I always loved those frames...could not resist to build around one.
Initially I considered riding without a fender, like this fella in Europe
http://www.clubchopper.com/forums/pi...ictureid=13763
Then I have considered swing arm mounted fender very close to the tire. Like the Speed King.
For that I still have a perfect aluminum ‘condom’ I had used on the rigid frame before the makeover to the FL frame.


Eventually I again changed my mind and went with the frame mounted sharp sportier look I saw in Europe .
Here,s my transformation from rigid:
http://www.clubchopper.com/forums/pi...ictureid=13726
http://www.clubchopper.com/forums/pi...ictureid=13185

To FL. I made the fender from 1/8” x 12”x18” sheet of aluminum ($15, eBay)

http://www.clubchopper.com/forums/pi...ictureid=13950 http://www.clubchopper.com/forums/pi...ictureid=13963
http://www.clubchopper.com/forums/pi...ictureid=13961
Cheers.

erlobulldog 05-06-2020 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain America (Post 1287171)
It’s a very personal decision, I would say if you plan on riding the bike a lot then the more length on the fender the better unless you like that black/brown racing stripe up your back look.

I know, me too. id prefer a mid length fender personally since you never know if my wife ever decides to go riding as well (wishful thinking).

erlobulldog 05-06-2020 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEINBVG (Post 1287172)
Man, you hit the spot. I always loved those frames...could not resist to build around one.
Initially I considered riding without a fender, like this fella in Europe
http://www.clubchopper.com/forums/pi...ictureid=13763
Then I have considered swing arm mounted fender very close to the tire. Like the Speed King.
For that I still have a perfect aluminum ‘condom’ I had used on the rigid frame before the makeover to the FL frame.


Eventually I again changed my mind and went with the frame mounted sharp sportier look I saw in Europe .
Here,s my transformation from rigid:
http://www.clubchopper.com/forums/pi...ictureid=13726
[img]http://www.clubchopper.com/forums/picture.php?
albumid=1775&pictureid=13185[/img]

To FL. I made the fender from 1/8” x 12”x18” sheet of aluminum ($15, eBay)

http://www.clubchopper.com/forums/pi...ictureid=13950 http://www.clubchopper.com/forums/pi...ictureid=13963
http://www.clubchopper.com/forums/pi...ictureid=13961
Cheers.


thats awesome! love the no fender look, but it honestly needs one. Im preferring the more mid length style but just wondering if theres anything out there cheap that can look acceptable.

I like the fender your using on that rigid! Im looking at a similar fender at the moment on the ol' ebay for around $40. I may consider that when I install my new rear tire. I know that thing is going to be a lot taller than the one on it at the moment.

STEINBVG 05-06-2020 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erlobulldog (Post 1287180)
thats awesome! love the no fender look, but it honestly needs one. Im preferring the more mid length style but just wondering if theres anything out there cheap that can look acceptable.

I like the fender your using on that rigid! Im looking at a similar fender at the moment on the ol' ebay for around $40. I may consider that when I install my new rear tire. I know that thing is going to be a lot taller than the one on it at the moment.

It’s tough to find a good looking fender fo decent price. In the past I bought from these guys https://bluecollarbobbers.com/shop/f...ulcan-800-400/
Their small aluminum rear fender perfectly covers antique tires like Coker or Shinko .
I called them and just ordered unpainted without any holes. I think at the time it was under $100. It,s about $200 now.
There might be a used front fender from a jap bike on eBay , but you have to know the exact make/ model that would be perfect and close to the tire.

erlobulldog 05-06-2020 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEINBVG (Post 1287181)
It’s tough to find a good looking fender fo decent price. In the past I bought from these guys https://bluecollarbobbers.com/shop/f...ulcan-800-400/
Their small aluminum rear fender perfectly covers antique tires like Coker or Shinko .
I called them and just ordered unpainted without any holes. I think at the time it was under $100. It,s about $200 now.
There might be a used front fender from a jap bike on eBay , but you have to know the exact make/ model that would be perfect and close to the tire.

Thanks man! looks good! but i agree $200 is a bit hefty. ill look at other bike brands as you suggested though. great idea!

erlobulldog 05-06-2020 03:12 PM

out of curiosity, can you fit a 16x5.5 wheel on a stock shovelhead swing arm? right now I got the stock 16x3.

just found out that Jeff uses a 16x5.5 in his. im wondering if you would either need a wider swing arm? or if not, would you have to offset the chain sprocket on the transmission? I mean, Im hoping and wishing that it would just slide on in place and look something like this:

https://i.imgur.com/LM7AZN6l.jpg

STEINBVG 05-06-2020 04:58 PM

Kraftech sells Fl frames for 130[3.5"rim] and 180 tire[5.5"rim], so there's a difference.

tall tires can be blown up on bigger rims. but for bigger rims you need bigger frame/swingarm.

erlobulldog 05-07-2020 08:12 AM

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erlobulldog 05-07-2020 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEINBVG (Post 1287186)
Kraftech sells Fl frames for 130[3.5"rim] and 180 tire[5.5"rim], so there's a difference.

tall tires can be blown up on bigger rims. but for bigger rims you need bigger frame/swingarm.

yeah, understood! I think ill just leave it as is.

erlobulldog 05-12-2020 06:35 PM

Tire came in and it looks great! Now im looking into the gasbox fender for vintage 16" tires.

https://i.imgur.com/bSLxJZ0l.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/HAdE7SXl.jpg

STEINBVG 05-13-2020 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erlobulldog (Post 1287209)
Tire came in and it looks great! Now im looking into the gasbox fender for vintage 16" tires.

https://i.imgur.com/bSLxJZ0l.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/HAdE7SXl.jpg

This rear is sexy. You see? No need and apparently no fit for a 5.5. Rim.
Search chopper cult they might have suggestion for perfect radius fender that would fit this or Coker firestone tires. Something tells me some jap cruisers front fenders would be perfect fit.
Please, don,t use a flat trailer fender.
Just for your reference
Measured my aluminum fender from edge to edge , width wise it,s 5.25”, rounded, so it,s like a condom to those tires, less than 1/2” clearance.

Get the diameter of the Shinko tire and look for a fender with those parameters on eBay.
http://www.clubchopper.com/forums/pi...ictureid=13185
http://www.clubchopper.com/forums/pi...ictureid=13735
If I see something, I will let you know.
Cheers.

erlobulldog 05-14-2020 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEINBVG (Post 1287210)
This rear is sexy. You see? No need and apparently no fit for a 5.5. Rim.
Search chopper cult they might have suggestion for perfect radius fender that would fit this or Coker firestone tires. Something tells me some jap cruisers front fenders would be perfect fit.
Please, don,t use a flat trailer fender.
Just for your reference
Measured my aluminum fender from edge to edge , width wise it,s 5.25”, rounded, so it,s like a condom to those tires, less than 1/2” clearance.

Get the diameter of the Shinko tire and look for a fender with those parameters on eBay.
http://www.clubchopper.com/forums/pi...ictureid=13185
http://www.clubchopper.com/forums/pi...ictureid=13735
If I see something, I will let you know.
Cheers.


Thanks man! yeah, im loving it.

I was looking around and saw this great looking fender...Its a Gasbox fender made for 16" vintage rear tires and fits the shinko perfectly (hopefully).

I like how it has a side wall to hug the tire a bit. sort of like an old WCC look in a way.

I was on the fence between this and using a the lowbrow mantaray fender (that looks similar to your fender, except with a slight bob to it)...I just didn't care for the bob. I really like how yours looks. Although, I always had a more slight inclination to fenders with a slight side wall.

So now is the waiting game again for UPS to deliver. can't wait for it to come in!

here's a few example shots:

https://i.imgur.com/NTFTNvVl.png

https://i.imgur.com/Nt3cfarl.png

https://i.imgur.com/5JtJK4ql.png

STEINBVG 05-14-2020 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erlobulldog (Post 1287211)
Thanks man! yeah, im loving it.

I was looking around and saw this great looking fender...Its a Gasbox fender made for 16" vintage rear tires and fits the shinko perfectly (hopefully).

I like how it has a side wall to hug the tire a bit. sort of like an old WCC look in a way.

I was on the fence between this and using a the lowbrow mantaray fender (that looks similar to your fender, except with a slight bob to it)...I just didn't care for the bob. I really like how yours looks. Although, I always had a more slight inclination to fenders with a slight side wall.

So now is the waiting game again for UPS to deliver. can't wait for it to come in!

here's a few example shots:

https://i.imgur.com/NTFTNvVl.png

https://i.imgur.com/Nt3cfarl.png

https://i.imgur.com/5JtJK4ql.png

Great looking fender, if I may ask? How much, just to keep in mind for future reference..
I like the fender with minimum side cover, so this meaty tall tire is all shown sideways.
Although, the wider side can conceal a reinforced support, - so you can make a clean installation without additional struts.

As far as rain protection(yeah right without the front fender) thy both would do the job.

But given we don,t have front fenders, the point is silly.

Therefore, go for the looks. Fuck pragmatism. The length of the fender at the back however will determine how much sand , dust will be thrown at your back- also not a big deal. I think slightly past to of theropod of the tire prevents shit from flying forward.
Additionally,
I,m yet to see a beautiful front fender on either chopper or bobber. Especially with a springer front end. They all look pathetic.
Cheers.


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