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Old 06-08-2015, 02:54 PM
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DNA 180/200 with chain chime in please

In the archives everyone with a chain is using a .810 offset from PBI on tranny and a .250 spacer on the rear.

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My first build.....

Running a metzeler 200 on a 5.5 rim. Have a 48 tooth sprocket and will use a 24 tooth on tranny.

With the 48 tooth and a .25 spacer on the rear a straight edge looks like it will put the chain awfully close to the tire with all kind of room to the swingarm.

The next size offset from PBI gives a .25 more offset so am thinking of going with it with a .50 spacer on the rear.

Just looking for opinion from you guys with a chain that run the .810 and .25 spacer.

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Old 06-13-2015, 10:08 PM
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Good question. I too am about to go to chain. I am nearly at this point. I have read and done lots of study on this and like you, found only the info you posted above. I would like to hear what you decided upon and do the same.
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Old 06-13-2015, 10:27 PM
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Yeah I hear ya after a week with no replies. Just going order the chain first before the offset sprocket. If looks too close for comfort just going to go with the extra .25" offset over recommend in the archives.

Shouldn't be a problem since there is suppose to be room for a 1 1/4 belt. Was just hoping for a pic of those guys using the .25" spacer with the rear sprocket.

How is your build coming? recall reading some of your post before purchasing the DNA frame.
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Old 06-13-2015, 10:33 PM
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Just hang tight I will know soon enough. probably order the chain next week. Then the offset sprocket and Ultima belt drive soon after.

Probably around a month or slightly more. Waiting on the parts in that order will be a couple weeks.

Will report back in this thread.
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Old 06-14-2015, 05:31 AM
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Just hang tight I will know soon enough. probably order the chain next week. Then the offset sprocket and Ultima belt drive soon after.

Probably around a month or slightly more. Waiting on the parts in that order will be a couple weeks.

Will report back in this thread.
if the flange on the wheel by itself doesn,t clear your sprocket/chain, even dished rear sprocket with built in offset , away from the tire and you need to use a spacer, I would take advantage of the max offset trany sprocket that fits under the primary motor plate ( 0.81 vs 0.9) and then space the rear sprocket accordingly clearing chain good away from the tire. Make sure you have a lip on the rear sprocket spacer when it,s too thick.


If flat or dished sprocket clears the chain right on the hub, then I would center the tire and now looked for an appropriate trany sprocket. if can,t find exactly matching trany sprocket( not many choices from the table) , go for bigger one and allign the rear sprocket with thin spacing. Moving wheel from the center even a bit is not desirable.
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Very good thread man! I'm putting together an Ultima frame build for my Dad. He was wanting a belt final drive, but for an S&S 103" Shovel I got him talked into the chain. I didn't really know where to start looking for the combo to use and I just found this! Awesome!
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Old 06-15-2015, 10:49 AM
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I know this is the DNA section but it gives me a good place to start.
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Old 06-15-2015, 02:29 PM
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3 guyz explained the best to me. Good fresher upper.

V-Twin Tech & FAQ's

What is Transmission Sprocket Offset?

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Old 08-01-2015, 12:11 PM
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bugnasty, here's what I got.

PBI 288 offset sprocket, tranny has .600 stock spacer.
5/16 spacer for sprocket on the wheel.
one 41595-73 (.8125/.8300") and one 40915-94 (1.25") left side axle spacers
one 41595-73 (.8125"/.8300") right side axle spacer
right side caliper mount which has a 1" width at the axle

This is with a metzeler 200 on a 5.5 rim.

This is worked for me not sure how those other guys are running the combo in my first post. Maybe with me having a spoke wheel the offset is different on mine compared to theirs.

The one common is the PBI 288 tranny sprocket. Purchase it center wheel then measure for the appropriate rear sprocket spacer.

One thing I came across that haven't noticed mentioned before is the rear sprocket I originally had wasn't the same width as the PBI offset tranny sprocket. The PBI tranny is .35 and the rear sprocket was .31. Found that to be tricky aligning so purchased a PBI rear sprocket which is the same width as the front. Just don't know how I feel running aluminum rear sprocket. Another rear combo is I can align the .31 width rear sprocket with a 3/8 spacer to the tranny sprocket. ALL in all a tedious process a machinist strait edge would help, I used a 1/2 x 2 1/2 x 3' piece of aluminum I had to check alignment.

Another facture that messed with me is the tranny sprocket doesn't run true without having the support bearing for the mainshaft on the primary holding the mainshaft. All of this is me probably just being to anal and should have just used a string instead of the aluminum straight edge. Just don't have the experience of knowing what I could get away with so was trying to get it a close to perfect as possible.
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Old 10-31-2015, 10:43 PM
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Thanks for the info. I will work with that. Helps a lot.
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