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The US has twice the crime rate as does the UK and Germany but we have 5 times the total population. So, crimes per 100000 people is much higher in those and other countries. So, the UK has more crimes per population with no private ownership of guns as does the US, where guns are STILL legal.

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I have said numerous times, that it is hard to take Dems seriously about protecting children, when they are pro-abortion.
I thought this thread was about gun control, not Rowe vs. Wade.
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I thought this thread was about gun control, not Rowe vs. Wade.
When the biggest players in trying to push more gun control onto the American people, use the deaths of children to push that agenda,....are the same who push the Pro-Choice agenda, and are pefectly fine with the death of unborn children,........ it becomes relevant and ironic at the same time.

Just shows how much the Liberal left uses any event, tragedy, or unrelated issue, to sway the uniformed, uneducated public,.... while that public is thinking with their hearts instead of their heads.
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When the biggest players in trying to push more gun control onto the American people, use the deaths of children to push that agenda,....are the same who push the Pro-Choice agenda, and are pefectly fine with the death of unborn children,........ it becomes relevant and ironic at the same time.

Just shows how much the Liberal left uses any event, tragedy, or unrelated issue, to sway the uniformed, uneducated public,.... while that public is thinking with their hearts instead of their heads.
Ain't that the truth!
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Check this out,...was written a while ago, before the most recent tragedy....by a Democrat...believe it or not. Great read.

Why Not Renew the “Assault Weapons” Ban? Well, I’ll Tell You… « Kontradictions
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When the biggest players in trying to push more gun control onto the American people, use the deaths of children to push that agenda,....are the same who push the Pro-Choice agenda, and are pefectly fine with the death of unborn children,........ it becomes relevant and ironic at the same time.

Just shows how much the Liberal left uses any event, tragedy, or unrelated issue, to sway the uniformed, uneducated public,.... while that public is thinking with their hearts instead of their heads.
I will admit, I also get irritated with the religious folks trying to push that this happened because we have abandoned god. This is important enough that both sides need to stay on point, look at the actual problem, and come up with real solutions. None of which, in my mind involve gun control.

To me, the problem is places offering its patrons no modicum of safety while trying to promote a gun-free zone. If you are going to offer a gun free zone, it should be your responsibility to offer protection to those people.

And that irony is on display with wanting to take protect people by taking their means of protection away.
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To our gub'mit it's more important to protect a DMV office than it is an Elementary school
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This is what happens when you have gun control.

Australian Gun Law Update

Here's a thought to warm some of your hearts....
From: Ed Chenel, A police officer in Australia
Hi Yanks, I thought you all would like to see the real
Figures from Down Under.
It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by a new law to
Surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by our own
Government, a program costing Australia taxpayers
More than $500 million dollars.
The first year results are now in:
Australia-wide, homicides are up 6.2 percent,
Australia-wide, assaults are up 9.6 percent;
Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44
Percent)!
In the state of Victoria
Alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. (Note that
While the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not
And criminals still possess their guns!)
While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady
Decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically
Upward in the past 12 months, since the criminals now are guaranteed
That their prey is unarmed.
There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and
Assaults of the elderly, while the resident is at home.
Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public
safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was
expended in 'successfully ridding Australian society of guns....' You
won't see this on the American evening news or hear your governor or
members of the State Assembly disseminating this information.
The Australian experience speaks for itself. Guns in the
hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control
laws affect only the law-abiding citizens.
Take note Americans, before it's too late!
Will you be one of the sheeple to turn yours in?
WHY? You will need it.
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So, Obama says guns in schools do not make the kids safer, but the school his daughter goes to has 11 armed guards,.....plus secret service.

School Obama's Daughters Attend Has 11 Armed Guards

If you dismiss this by saying, "Of course they have armed guards -- they get Secret Service protection," then you've missed the larger point.

The larger point is that this is standard operating procedure for the school, period. And this is the reason people like NBC's David Gregory send their kids to Sidwell, they know their kids will be protected from the carnage that befell kids at a school where armed guards weren't used (and weren't even allowed).

Shame on President Obama for seeking more gun control and for trying to prevent the parents of other school children from doing what he has clearly done for his own. His children sit under the protection guns afford, while the children of regular Americans are sacrificed.
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Alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. (Note that
While the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not
And criminals still possess their guns!)
Gee, I bet the morons in Washington won't figure this out any better than the morons in the Australian government did.

If the government requires people to turn in their guns, the law-abiding citizens will but the criminals won't. I bet this will surprise the hell out of a lot of people in Washington.

The idea that criminals don't follow the law, who would'a thunk it?
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Gee, I bet the morons in Washington won't figure this out any better than the morons in the Australian government did.

If the government requires people to turn in their guns, the law-abiding citizens will but the criminals won't. I bet this will surprise the hell out of a lot of people in Washington.

The idea that criminals don't follow the law, who would'a thunk it?
You guys actually think these guys believe it will curb gun violence? They know better than that. This is just another way of controlling the people. An armed person is a citizen and unarmed is a subject. If you can't tell by how they pass laws without caring what the general public supports this isn't about protection this is about control, just like Obamacare was about control.
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this isn't about protection this is about control, just like Obamacare was about control.
You know a couple of years ago I might have disagreed with this, but after watching all the things that are going on, I have to say you are on the money with this statement. And its not just Obama, its government in general.

Our rights and freedoms are slowly being chipped away, and government is forcing its way more and more into our daily lives. I want less government in my life, not more. I want less laws telling me what I can and cannot do, and I don't want laws telling me I can't do something that I have been doing since I was a kid.

My guns are mine. PERIOD. I've had some of them since I was in my teens (or younger), so who the hell has the right to tell me I can't have them any more?

As for Obamacare, how can government tell you that you have to buy something, you don't want, from a private company or face fines? I may be wrong, but I don't think this has ever happened before in the US. This is messed up on so many levels that I don't even know where to start.

And don't even get me started on Obama's immigration policies.
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the minute the patriot act went in, I knew we were doomed.

This shit made me lol. Hopefully he will get charged

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Heres a clip that shows the cops removing the "assult rifle" from the trunk of Lanza's car at Sandy Hook...Amazing how he used it when it was in the trunk the whole time.

Growing Evidence an AR15 Wasn’t Used in Sandy Hook Massacre
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