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There are two ways that people can form opinions. The conservative way is to get your opinions from your political leaders like Limbaugh, Hannity, FAUX etc. And then ignore any new information that might conflict with those opinions.
The liberal way is to gather information independently first and then form your opinions. And then remain open minded if new information comes along that might lead one to draw another conclusion.
Of course both sides will accuse the other of this. But hundreds of studies have been done on the subject by scientists and psychologists that show which side does which. Conservatives would argue that scientists and psychologists are nearly always liberal and thus have a liberal bias of their own. I would respond that the fact that scientists and psychologists are nearly always liberal proves my point.
You forgot the most important - experience. The working world is the best experience. The left won't work as long as they are given handouts so there is no experience there. Those that can do, those that can't teach and lean left looking for the hand outs.
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But it would have been just fine if he was 17, unarmed, and black right? And if the shooter had been an untrained volunteer neighborhood watch captain. Then there wouldn't be any problem killing him.
Or if he was an unarmed black guy trying to cross a bridge in the middle of the Katrina flood in New Orleans. Then its OK if the cops kill him right? So its not the cops killing somebody that you have a problem with. I wonder what is the connection between those events that makes it alright. What did they have in common? Is it that the guy with the CCW permit is always right? No, that can't be it because you were all for the 20 year sentence for the black woman who fired the gun into the ceiling when her husband with the restraint order broke into her house. I think she had a CCW. Gee then what could the common thread possibly be. I'm sure I don't know.
I'm kind of confused about how Costco is responsible though. What did they do besides telling an apparently intoxicated person (he was on "high levels" of morphine and Xanax and had to be physically supported by his girlfriend) who was ripping open packages and carrying a concealed handgun in their store (actually it was 2 concealed handguns and he didn't have a permit for one of them) that he would have to leave the store. And then calling 911 when he refused. Why would that make them liable? Here's the 911 recording btw Erik Scott 911 tapes Costco part 1 - YouTube and part 2 Erik Scott 911 tapes Costco part 2 - YouTube You can hear the cops repeatedly order the guy to get on the ground in the second recording. I'm gonna take a wild guess that he failed to comply.
And why are we talking about a case that was resolved back in Sept of 2010?
I don't have much use for cops and even less for prosecutors. But if they told the guy to get on the ground (as you can clearly hear on the 2nd recording) and he responded by leveling a gun at them as most of the witnesses testified maybe they had a point. Although I'd be the first to tell you that deck was probably stacked. You know who agrees with you though?
I never thought I'd see the day when the ClubChopper crowd would side with the ACLU. On the other hand
I'm going to go out on a limb and say you'd probably side with the zombie who was under a bridge chewing on some guy's face the other day if only he'd had a CCW permit. But only if he was white right?
Seriously guy, you sound so stupid! shut your short, overweight, liberal whining ass up and go away
Thats why I see NO NEED to have a CCW. Innocent people are killed everyday from fucking jackasses carring guns, and I'm not refering to the cops either. Nobody has the nuts to be a man anymore and just knuckle-up like they use to 20 years ago. Instead you get these dudes who want to be a badass and pull a gun out from behind their back....
Leave the guns to the military, law enforcement and drug dealers (this part of the equation usually weeds out some of that stock among themselves).
Our guns keep the gub'mit in check and protect us from the bad apples. Say what ya want about fighting but it's stupid to take your fists to a gun fight.
Ok..there seems to be a lot more to this story than the original articles. Blood tests show he had "near lethal" levels of morphine and Xanax in his system. Many of the other witnesses stated he did pull a gun on the police officers before they shot him. He had a 45 and a .380 Ruger. He apparently pulled the 45.
As with everything in this world, there are 2 sides to every story.
You forgot the most important - experience. The working world is the best experience. The left won't work as long as they are given handouts so there is no experience there. Those that can do, those that can't teach and lean left looking for the hand outs.
Ras are you actually stupid enough to believe the garbage you spew or do you just say the dumbest thing you can think of at any given moment?
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The liberal way is to gather information independently first and then form your opinions. And then remain open minded if new information comes along that might lead one to draw another conclusion.
The lib way is to make up their minds on something, then pass laws to force everybody else to do what THEY think is right.
Our guns keep the gub'mit in check and protect us from the bad apples. Say what ya want about fighting but it's stupid to take your fists to a gun fight.
Yeah I can hardly wait to see you guys holding off Abrams tanks with your "hunting" guns to stop that awful Obama from letting insurance companies take your premiums for 20 years and then cut you off when you make a claim. Saving a million US auto industry jobs is "communism!" And it was totally unfair of Obama to use TWO YEAR OUT OF DATE Bush torture derived intelligence to take out Osama bin Laden. All that HAS to be worth committing "suicide by cop" right?
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Seriously guy, you sound so stupid! shut your short, overweight, liberal whining ass up and go away
I'll make you a deal. All you have to do is explain to me how you right wingers manage to be on the wrong side of EVERY single issue. Just give me a rational explanation for that and I'll log off forever. But you can't do it can ya?
I used to have a pistol grip on my Mossberg till I fired the son of a bitch a few times. Even your name is stupid. And quit sucking off the tax payers ya bum. Get a real job!
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Ok..there seems to be a lot more to this story than the original articles. Blood tests show he had "near lethal" levels of morphine and Xanax in his system. Many of the other witnesses stated he did pull a gun on the police officers before they shot him. He had a 45 and a .380 Ruger. He apparently pulled the 45.
As with everything in this world, there are 2 sides to every story.
Joyridin' you'll never get anywhere with these people by talking facts and reality to them. Medical science has proven that conservative brains simply do not function. EEG and MRI machines have proven their fear centers are enlarged while the higher thinking region is underdeveloped and they can't generate enough electrical energy in the region that's supposed to tell them when reality is radically different than their beliefs. That's not just an insult. Its a well documented peer reviewed medical condition.
Start with that pgp. See? I'm even willing to point you in the right direction. Now all you gotta do is research it and write it up with some case histories. Start with the Psychology Today articles on conservative brains. You can google that easy enough. Remember I will be grading you on your sincerity. But I'll give you extra credit for exploring all possible meanings of the term "suicide by cop".
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Yeah I can hardly wait to see you guys holding off Abrams tanks with your "hunting" guns to stop that awful Obama from letting insurance companies take your premiums for 20 years and then cut you off when you make a claim. Saving a million US auto industry jobs is "communism!" And it was totally unfair of Obama to use TWO YEAR OUT OF DATE Bush torture derived intelligence to take out Osama bin Laden. All that HAS to be worth committing "suicide by cop" right?
WoW dummy, first of all learn about standing armies on our soil.
You have no idea what the insurance argument is. In fact you have no idea what any of the things you are argue about are. This is why you jump around like a spider monkey on crack
He didn't save jobs he cost others jobs. He did this as a favor to unions for getting him elected. Now GM is moving overseas, Chrysler is bought by overseas companies and auto workers are still losing jobs. You're an idiot of the nth degree.
Bush? what? This was intelligence done by a doctor who was originally brought in by our CIA. All odummy did was say "yes".
I won't be committing suicide by cop, that's a battle I can win and just so you know brainiac cops don't drive Abrams tanks. You are truly a stupid person, you lack the intellect to actually stick to one topic and instead flail about jumping on every email talking point you get from huffington post or msnbc or democratic underground. you are basically one of these idiots who has a bunch of bits of informatin no idea what it applies to, no idea how to use it and you just like to spout it out all the time thinking you know what you are talking about.
I bet as many people laugh at you in person as online.
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