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Old 09-27-2008, 10:40 AM
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I fell asleep through part of that debate last night.
McCain seemed better and Obama seemed worse than expected.

Probably better to just check this site for the facts w/o any spin (why is it that after the debate, the respective talking heads for each candidate appear to have it more together than their bosses when they get their points across?):

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...bate_no_1.html

This one's worth reading too. It's a listing of whoppers told by each candidate.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...s_of_2008.html
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Old 09-27-2008, 10:58 AM
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Cenjim I can sum up the debate for you.

There was a question from the monitor. Obama would give a smooth fragmented answer. Then it would be give to John Mccain to answer. John would give a in depth answer. Then Obama would do what he always does after a person that knows the facts. Obama would act like I knew all that but did not want to bore the people. Obama used this tactic of ( I agree with John) to rebut John Mccain's statements.

I watch Obama do that all the way through the Democratic debates to Hilliary Clinton time, and time again.
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Hillary's knowledge and experience far outpaces Obama's.
Her skills and recall of facts is very good.

Both McCain and Barack were off base with statements they made and it shows when analyzed.
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I thought Obama's answers were better on the economy but McCain got him on foreign policy.

But overall I wasnt impressed with the debate at all, I wanted to hear more about the economy, not this fuckin war.

I hope the VP's do better then this in there debates.
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What economy?? Sorry Bosco but you will only see people's lips move, and hear nothing comeout of them on the economy.

There is nothing that can be done to repair the system but hope, and prayers. Games over.
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regardless, I hate hearing all this "we must protect Israel: which is what I hear then they talk about the War/s

Its bullshit, I heard no new taxes for middle income families and Over sight on this bailout package. Both good things.

I also heard McCain trying to confuse earmarks for pork barrell spending and the two have are not the same.

Also heard 4 billion dollars tax breaks to big oil, more money the tax payers has to foot.

I'm not voting for either one but McCain just doesnt even resemble any kind of change to me
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Is this where someone mentions to listen to Dark Side of the Moon with the TV volume down while watching the debates and everything is in sync?

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Obama didn't give a single answer other than spouting off on what he's been saying in his campaign.
He talked about the middle class tax reduction and the increase to corporations.
He brought up corporations tax loop holes. I wish McCain had asked him which loop holes he was talking about. I doubt he has a clue.

The war stuff is a bit more important. Venusala (sp) our biggest supplier of oil has agreed to sell china a heck of a lot more (almost double per day). They don't like us one damn bit and if they cut us off we are fucked.

Russia is fixing up a base in the middle east so they have a presence there.
This shit's starting to get serious and I sure a shit don't want Obama leading the troops if we have to go against Russia.
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Rastoy if Obama by chance get elected he will take Oprah, and Dr. Phil with him to talk to Mr. Putin.
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Is this where someone mentions to listen to Dark Side of the Moon with the TV volume down while watching the debates and everything is in sync?


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Russia is fixing up a base in the middle east so they have a presence there.
This shit's starting to get serious and I sure a shit don't want Obama leading the troops if we have to go against Russia.
Russia knows very well they have a window of opportunity now. Doesn't matter who leads the country from here. The window opened when we got bogged down in Iraq and Afghanistan. Georgia's just a little feeler.
They're looking for ways to boost their economy.

The Russians just loaned Chavez of Venezuela $ 1 billion to modernize its military capability. I'd guess they'll get some oil in return.
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I hope the VP's do better then this in there debates.
Man, Bosco that would be a real surprise. We're talking Sarah Palin and Joe Biden!

I guess it might be "interesting".

Biden's already said Hillary would have been a better choice for Barack. He said FDR went on television to reassure Americans when the stock market crashed in 1929. On and on...he's got lots of experience, is glib, and tends to overtalk things, getting into trouble.
I don't know how they'll rein him in.

I'm beginning to think all the Palin interviews (or clips of interviews) are just setups--she's purposely looking like she's way over her head to lower our expectations. She's got to be cramming like for a final exam now.

WARNING: THESE TWO VIDEOS ARE VERY PAINFUL TO WATCH!

Looking more and more like we're getting screwed somehow no matter who wins in November.






I'm beginning to think this is all just a segue to the Mayan calendar end of times deal.
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Here, in case you cant remember back to 2002, here it is again.



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He brought up corporations tax loop holes. I wish McCain had asked him which loop holes he was talking about. I doubt he has a clue.
You mean McCain doesnt have a clue, I agree.

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The war stuff is a bit more important. Venusala (sp) our biggest supplier of oil has agreed to sell china a heck of a lot more (almost double per day). They don't like us one damn bit and if they cut us off we are fucked.
We have been trying to Kill Chavez for years and now he wants to take Chinese money over our failing US Dollars, and you're surprised about it.
I have never agreed with this emp[ire building we are doing right now, its cost me money in taxes, American lives then I still pay a higher price for the spoils, I have to pay for this shit twice. I dont see any advantage at all.

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Russia is fixing up a base in the middle east so they have a presence there.
This shit's starting to get serious and I sure a shit don't want Obama leading the troops if we have to go against Russia.
I seen this coming for a long time, Russia, Pakistan, there are a bunch countries trying to play for position. Its not going to stop unless we start thinking about how we conduct ourselves. We wouldnt like it if Russia finds Oil off the Gulf of Mexico then tries to say its theres, like we are doing off the coast of Alaska.

Also, when did you become scared of these countries, but in another breath talk about how we are the greatest in everything.

You dont make any sense to me, and to top it all off YOU'RE concerns are not the same as MOST everyone else's concerns because you are in the top 2%.

You can set up a "C" Corp, and structure it with two separate trusts and only pay 11% of taxes for up to 40 years.

I agree Jim when your not leading in the polls all you have to do it not hurt yourself and youve done good. Especially in todays sound byte politics, people vote party, and emotion. The issues are just a waste of time to most. I call them tourists and consumers not citizens.
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