Shovel Ready Log INN

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I am at a point where I feel confident I have my guide-reamer-cutter-pilot tool 'catalogs' all coming within days of each other.

If I only had a cad-cam jig and laser kind of valve machine to X and Y my 3 cuts. Speaking with a tech guy, he was bouncing his ideas off on me. I was following book, he was more a 45/45 man. And the more he talked, the more he made sense. That meant to forgo what H-D has design wise. I could only guess it is the better seal. But the costs go up is one.

And maybe that is why the edge will last longer using a 46/45° angle. The 45/45 cut has to ride. I am hovering so close to the whole price of the labor/parts vs. parts/special tools. And this is a one time kind of job either way you look at it. What I thought about doing was to now change all the guides. Run one reamer size for both intake and exhaust stems.

The H-D valves are:

IN: INTAKE
EX: EXHAUST


Instead of buying 2 different pilots for 2 different guides sizes, I'll have to kill a few birds running a single size stem. The catalogs should show the stem diameters so I can match stem to tulip diameter for both in and ex valves.

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Got a little work in. Here is a polish spin for the hammered out high spots.


Took a rawhide mallet to the cold parts.


Found the drill size before I sent her home.

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Bike is finally off the rack. Yeah, I'm lazy. I waited till the guy showed up today.

I have no clue why they used half the can of sheyeastizzshithegaska kiss! Why they didn't pour the whole can over the bike. Cheese is, I would half done better than that!

Lazy? I'm smoking this like a good cigar. Nice and slow. If I had all the parts ready to go, it be out the garage in a few days, give or take a few hours I linger on it.

I am just days away from ordering a round of special tools. Here is my final decision as to how to rebuild the head. First, the bronze guide would need a reamer that is half the price of farming out the job. I figure I need two size reamers for the in and exhaust.

If say I use cast iron guides, I can ream those with the less expensive reamers. I now buy two matching pilots for the stone cutter and stone the heads all with the 45°, using the 30/60 all set to narrow the seat in. I forgo the quicker cutting expensive neway being it's a one time deal; and that really blows the job [well] over the top.

Cash for cash wise, that's the plan so far. Cast iron guides and stainless valves should finally assemble this baby. Next step it to splatter her apart and freshen up the gash in her split, all at the same time. Spread her legs open; see how she's looking bearing [surface] wise? You didn't know I was a gone-0-college-yeast inspector in my spare time? Volunteer pap smear eye yam.

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Last week or there about, neway and Goodson arrived. They were my bathroom readers trying to find tool and replacement parts. I'll be full on 'in-house' tool'd in a day or two.

Unless you call the red flag on Goodson lowering quality with chinese dog food and human toothpaste parts going tiewanted, hanging that chumpchange, wantedead or alive, I have neway as a backup.

[RedWings]

the tools are expensive for a one time valve job but its nice to have them around if you have the cash to spare. The other thing is, you can always sell them after you're done to recoup some cash.

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Originally Posted by RedWings

... you can always sell them after you're done to recoup some cash.

Well, that's just it. He was quoted $30 a guide pop. It has two bad ex guides. The rest was to cut new seats for $400 = $460 [I assemble the head]. I talked the guy into buying tools and like you said, down the road some, those are his [special one-off] tools. I said we can beat that price and run all new guides. We were getting close to $500 for a valve job in labor alone. And that was just a quote over the phone with the jobber-guy being in the middle of the machinist guy-getting his cut. Which I don't blame him. Then again, you can blow so much out of the tub and then all of a sudden, "cash waiting."

I said to owner, you see the small end has a mickey mouse sleeve in there an now it's too late. I said I wanted book spec tight [pistons] you break it in slow and they threw that number in the middle, you lose again. I said, if they can screw up two press outs and machine back in parts, I'll attempt the same mistakes and keep it all Mickey Micrometer Mikey w/out license in house, OH Sea Sea.

Besides, I noticed they use those air guns for top fuel heads and now the catalog states less galling by light air hammering the head holes. I have gun, a small air tank with pressure valve, temp sticks to watch the grease melt at 260°F and hammer away on a frozen guide. And it's too late I call the guy, he calls his guy, asks how they remove/install guides? If he uses anything less than gall in my stall, we will never know. It's bridge under the water from ear is what I mean.

And the fun part is; I am the X and the guy is the Y. If we do not get it 45° straight, then it's just as cob'd as the one guide kissing that rocker box stud. Unless I make a sandbag and hammer it on my own [X to Y]. That sounds like a plan! Anyway, I'll think of something laser beamed.

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I know how one climbs the wall trying to get back on bike. It's been well over 6 months now and I get a phone call this morning. "What's going on with my bike?" Will you relax already! It's Monday and maybe it's busy there. Let me call in a day or two, let them get caught up.

Less than two minutes go by;

((((Ring-Ring)))) ~ "Hi, this is so-an-so at Goodson, did you receiver your catalog?" How's that for coincidence? Well, yes, it's been my bathroom reader since I received it. Can I get you some coffee because it's going to be a long time here. I did do my homework and let us begin on page, what? You mean I'm way over tech speak, you just wanted to hear a part number so we can place an order? You'll have so-an-so call me tomorrow because right out of the gate we see two conflicting numbers even to start the head job?

I have to first place a tool order to remove guides. Everything I have is close but no cigar and I need to do this right with the right tools-if I'm going to give it a go. Be my guest if you want to take a chance with a perfect head going meguyveer. This is just the fun part of building. It's called, 'Frustration with an F.' It comes in all sizes and you just climb that prizon wall with a z and a zag.

Oh the joys of building bike.

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Yesterday, I get a call from Goodson. We went over the technical issue like butter. They have a sharp crew over there and we are now on like donkeyKong! As we walked the pages back and forth, this parts changer was schooled on machine parts.

I bought an air tool bit that didn't fit in my air gun. We are talking hair sizes, and we hear the term "401" for the shank size. I'm reading off two numbers and I sure do not want my gun jammed with the Goodson tool coming.

This setup would have mushroomed both sides of the guide, "I hammer outhead." Friday or Monday is arrival time for the proper tool. Won't be long now.





http://www.5min.com/Video/Valve-Guid...ation-39413696

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The air tool remover/installer arrived. I'm in the process of making a wood chuck for the vertical R&R.




Here is basically what I am attempting to do is to cook the head on the BBQ stove. Temp stick to 260° or there about. I have a troth where I can shoot a frosty shot at the inner valve guides and try to cool them in the contract mode being the whole head was sitting in pan like a lobster with the lid on.

It won't be long now.

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Here is where I use spent paper towels under the can and cutting board trying to dial in the box at the top. If the box was off, it would show up but she was on the money up the ramp.

I need that X to Y at the 45° hammering, so here is where I climb up the idea as if someone handed me two items and now Meguybeer you go!

Not that I need a drink to stop the flow of ideas and now I head to the other flow tank or is it bench? Yes, back to the valve bench or butcher block is to knock them in and out here goes nothing!
I need to flip her on her belly or her head. Either way, I am about to drill some needed stud sinking and fin clearing. Next, I now have to raise the butcher block to another knife edge, I need to crank the 45 out and raise her 90° so I drill out her [stud-fin] tracks.

To continue the idea of a valve guide work block, the glue to dry, the block to drill, and now once again she still needs the meguyveerear end her up the other side; we spray a chill factor in the continuous chilling of the guide coming out and going in.




All this leveling so the 45° position does not tip toe down the block on it's own-upon setup.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4SbuqBemcg

The Exit Block call it is pretty much 50% of the EXIT Guide Idea. Here in the R&D lab outside on a cement walkway, I lit propane at a large bolt till it turned color. I then immediately sprayed the dust off onto the bolt to witness any ignition I stood far away and more threw a mist at it so the condense would not snuff it and cool it too soon.

Once I felt safe to keep that frost moving as that head is slammed down on the block and the donkeyKong hose is on; I spray the chill factor at it before I trigger the guy out, that is pretty much a fast, get the ball rolling is one finished valve remover block w/cool cage hose me frost bite right in the brain freeze.

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I have a pipe break from a tree root I get this idea right out of Meguideride over here with some PVC.


Case is coming along without vinny, but with carb clean. So far, that is the only cutter I've come up with that can take this bad boy slobberbobber I'm so pissed! Next time I'll catch the twist on the case and apply the fingernail test.

See, I had that goo all setup too late to catch it. Me thinking I had the holes cleaned, the case studs brushed clean. It should have line bored right in, but next time I won't rely on how well the EVO is zip to check at the half case. My fault being spoiled. So goes the gasket crush to take that poo-poo up.



So that is pretty much takes your time up for now. The valve block station worked out as planned. Kind of better than I expected. I hardly see any galling. That means if we execute on the install the same way, we can expect to have minimum gall action entry. I'll figure out something. Valve Removal Video to follow.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JzVkT6E9uQ

Now that I've broken'inn this squid, we can tag team the guides going back in. Parts should be here sometime next week. Pipes are the biggest hangup I wish this guy would make up his mind what color he wants his kitchen now that he doesn't like the wallpaper he chose.

I'll have the parts here in a few days and done before he makes a decision. He called today. I said, 'Where are my pipes?"

[RedWings]

looks like that air hammer worked pretty good? and the cases cleaned up nice, you had a prob sealing them? I use sealer sold at jap bike shops called 1194 if I remember. Only stuff I've found that will seal an Evo.

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Well, RedWings, I'm trying to backtrack my anal move. I may have left previous case half goo in a hole, and/or was clean where it would float on it's own. That one sided slide on the 4 leveling studs may have thrown the case off level if I assume [said] leftover residual. Oh, let me tell you, it's so minor on this bike, I think I could have pushed her even before the sealer setup.

Oh no. I'm full on OEM issue. They do not have their act together in the sealer dept, <<< I'll show you their dirty undies we do no switch brands mid case LOL! That's a $12 tube of case leak; you have a leak within warranty? I would assume not too many new H-D owners are complaining about their bike leaking [if] that tube is the same sealer used at the factory. The point is; I'll match you tubes or H-D uses the same bulk and markets it under said name is your J-model sealer.

As far as the air gun? I looked on line for any kind of valve guide repair. Watched them air tool the guides in and out. Said, that looks easy enough. Then I had to think out of the box to make a chill box coming out/going in kind of idea. I wanted to save that head from galling itself out from within. I know they have increments expanded for galling reasons on the guides going out. If you had the tooling, I think I could cut a new hole and be done with the head if I had to stand there and not heat the head over 260°F and all that time sitting there wasting propane at both ends and all that. Then the point is, buy more tools to sink a new [next] size up? Cha-Ching past the $500 labor window alone, was a guess over the phone.

This is minimal machine work in a cramped space as it is. I don't know the percentages of full-on dealer level machine shop kind of dealers out there today?; I never worked at one setup that well. All you're watching is dis ear potato-potato mash coming at some bull ring, some closed course, some come get some race no matter the place the foot DIS PLAced we [PlAY] for the cash window LOL

Potato-Potato Mash it ain't! Dis Ear IS: "i'M COMING TO GETCHEW!" And that is to beat the living crap out of this bike is get a 1/4Kick out of it. That is the goal in [dis build is it INN] a nut for dis nut in a nutshell. That is all I am after. It 'ain't my bike.' I just tune it up and send it on it's way BuY-ByE. Nice Fondling Your UU Shoveliciously licking her Potato-Potatos with a special valve adjust idea is one more time; experimentime on your bike within a box. Cause&Effect = "Ain't MY BIKE!"

I'm not over the hump yet.