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Old 05-29-2014, 08:55 AM
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Tallest engine in the frame?

1) guys, i have searched around and got an impression that for the kraft tech frame- standart width, 0-0 stretches, 30 degree rake-- the tallest engine tried was 113, correct? 127 wouldn't fit?

2) do you think i can get away with a springer -4[ like stock 74" harley springer?] considering use of 16 rims and coker firestone tires[26.42 diameter]???if not i will destretch , gooseneck and rake the frame to fit the springer

3)my hybrid chopper seem to have room and stamina for ultima 140" engine[ in which case i will donate it's 96" engine to the new project

any feelings /experience about this engine for street?. I'm curious to discover how it feels to ride this one... Because ultima 127 seems to be behaving very street friendly[ to my surprise]
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Old 05-29-2014, 11:29 AM
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I have a Kraftech 0-0-30 frame, I can't tell you what the tallest engine you can put in will be but let me know if you need any measurements. I can tell you that I had a -4 DNA springer on it with a 21" front wheel and the front fender hit the frame under heavy compression.
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Old 05-29-2014, 03:02 PM
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I have a Kraftech 0-0-30 frame, I can't tell you what the tallest engine you can put in will be but let me know if you need any measurements. I can tell you that I had a -4 DNA springer on it with a 21" front wheel and the front fender hit the frame under heavy compression.
How much ground clearance do you have, what,s your rear wheel size, is the frame level? Do you have a picture of the setup?

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Old 05-29-2014, 04:32 PM
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It's not level but it's really close, 4" from the floor to the bottom of the frame under the trans, 4 1/4" from the floor to the bottom of the frame under the engine. Running a MT90/16(it's a 130) tire/wheel setup on the rear. It's on the kickstand in both of these pics, if you need anything else just just let me know...



...found this pic in my gallery too,engine is pretty tight in the frame, I can measure that for ya if you need it...

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Old 05-29-2014, 04:41 PM
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It's not level but it's really close, 4" from the floor to the bottom of the frame under the trans, 4 1/4" from the floor to the bottom of the frame under the engine. Running a MT90/16(it's a 130) tire/wheel setup on the rear. It's on the kickstand in both of these pics, if you need anything else just just let me know...

Great help captain, and it,s really -4 springer? .25 inch difference I'm clearance, is pretty darn level.
With anticipated firestone tires I might be pretty good with ground clearance, even On 16" rims
Where do you hit your fender, I can,t imagine?
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Old 05-29-2014, 06:17 PM
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Great help captain, and it,s really -4 springer? .25 inch difference I'm clearance, is pretty darn level.
With anticipated firestone tires I might be pretty good with ground clearance, even On 16" rims
Where do you hit your fender, I can,t imagine?
Sorry, I wasn't very clear. It had a -4 on it, now it's a -2, with the -4 under super heavy braking or if I hit a big dip or pothole the fender would graze the frame.
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Old 06-01-2014, 06:53 AM
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-4 replica springer on a kraft tech

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Sorry, I wasn't very clear. It had a -4 on it, now it's a -2, with the -4 under super heavy braking or if I hit a big dip or pothole the fender would graze the frame.
Hi captain, do you have any pictures how it was with -4?

Do you recall what where you ground clearance numbers- in the front and in the rear?

I wonder if the kraft tech sportster frame has similar geometry to corresponding BT frames.

I found this beautiful bobber online, kraft sportster frame ( seems unmodified) worked out very well with 16" and the firestones.
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Old 06-01-2014, 07:12 AM
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Sorry, no pics, borrowed it from a friend who was accumulating parts for a build and had it on for about an hour. The bottom frame rail was down about 1/4" and it gave the bike a killer look but I live in an urban area with terrible roads in a state that requires a front fender and you don't want the fender too close to the tire on a springer or really bad things can happen. A slightly longer rocker would have taken care of it but I just put my original front end back on.
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Old 06-01-2014, 07:22 AM
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Sorry, no pics, borrowed it from a friend who was accumulating parts for a build and had it on for about an hour. The bottom frame rail was down about 1/4" and it gave the bike a killer look but I live in an urban area with terrible roads in a state that requires a front fender and you don't want the fender too close to the tire on a springer or really bad things can happen. A slightly longer rocker would have taken care of it but I just put my original front end back on.
1/4 down comparing to what you have now?, In the front or in the rear or both?
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Old 06-01-2014, 07:44 AM
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1/4 down from level, rear didn't change.
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Little bobber, I guess a new build

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1/4 down from level, rear didn't change.
Here I,m , my roller seems to be coming alone nicely with 4 under springer and 16 " rims and firestone tires. Level at 4" ground clearance. I,m happy with the kraft tech frame. Australians used to make great rims for harley.

Had a cheep bobber seat( but has a decent pan), skinned it and trimmed the thick padding down I have a piece of 8oz leather, will screw it on with small sex posts.




The handlebars are temporary.
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Here I,m , my roller seems to be coming alone nicely with 4 under springer and 16 " rims and firestone tires. Level at 4" ground clearance. I,m happy with the kraft tech frame. Australians used to make great rims for harley.

Had a cheep bobber seat( but has a decent pan), skinned it and trimmed the thick padding down I have a piece of 8oz leather, will screw it on with small sex posts.


The handlebars are temporary.
The wheels look great!
Handlebars look ok too.
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Old 06-14-2014, 05:08 PM
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shes going tobe a looker
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Old 06-15-2014, 08:12 AM
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shes going tobe a looker
great job
As long as she is not 'pretty' or 'cute'
Well, here,s my 1t ever attempt of upholstery.
Bolted the cover on the seat as planned. The original non collapsible foam ( which consists of small pieces)is tough to make smooth, I left 3/4 ", but might later cut it down to .5" and add another layer of a smoother foam. The bolts are a bit uneven, but it was tough to space the additional holes amongst the ore existing, already unevenly spaced. I bought the good quality , 7 oz 18"x 18" leather and the sex posts from Springfield leather, very decent price.

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Old 06-18-2014, 04:31 PM
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120-127 fit just fine in the kraft tech

Got my 120" engine today. Was curious to see if it behaves differently than 127 I already have.
Perfect fit in the frame.
It looks like this aluminum tank will work nicely in my opinion giving the bike the theme of fatness. This time I also will have a big 5" diameter teardrop shaped headlight, but mounted low, right above the wheel.

As usual sheet metal remains brushed finish. Blue collar bobbers provide very nice aluminum fenders.



I think the tank curves nicely next to the rockers.
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