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Old 07-12-2014, 05:58 PM
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A few additions to the bobber project

Made a hand shifter from a steel pipe and pep boys knob . The green harley neutral indicator is inserted on the top. The similar tiny oil light will be inserted on the top of the motor plate and the blue high beam- will be incorporated on the headlamp.


Started to install the fender. About 1/2" from the tire. Perfect radius. Thanks to blue collar bobbers. Changed my mind about rear mount when accidentally saw a Vulcan engineering RSD primary spacer laying around...never used. It had perfectly matched radius to become a mounting hardware for the fender.
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Old 07-15-2014, 07:46 PM
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Fuel supply

Was looking for a petcock 3/8 npt minimally restrictive - found this funky thing

Complemented it by this nice washable filter
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Old 07-21-2014, 08:06 PM
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Well, she,s alive!!!

Fired the bike up yesterday and today. Was impatient, only run the ignition and starter circuits.
You should see my 1 gauge marina cables cut to the precise length, crimped and shrink tubed. My system is 120 ultima, starter 1.75 ultima and battery...ta ta! - again Ultima, the winning combination.

The open chain primary is working! my jackshaft housing is working very well. Fires without hesitation, long 4 piece harley jackshaft is playing exposed pica boo , looks so cool.
I need to tune up a few kinks, like the tensioner arm spring tension should go up, perhaps I will bif up the bracket holding it.
The fucker is noisy , actually the stamped steel clutch basket( for enclosed primary) chimes like a bell with the plates rattling around. But the chain itself or the sprockets seem aligned well - I can,t hear the clicking engagement. Seems not as noisy as I expected

The pictures and video are to follow( when I,m satisfied).

By the way, today for some reason she refused to start immediately. There,s spark, but seemingly no fuel, even though the fuel line pisses like an elefant.( no obstruction there)
As I deduced: Yesterday I drained the fuel and somehow the carb,s float got stuck for some reason didn,t allow the complete fill of the chamber- thus the enricher, main and intermediate jets were above the gas level---only the accelerator pump long enough could reach the gas, giving the false impression of adequate supply. ( spraying with the twist of throttle)
Removed the bowel, made sure everything was loose and moving. Reinstalled ...and fired right up.

So, keep in mind this scenario. This one was new for me....

If there,s good battery, spark and fuel in the bowel. She must fire.... No questions.
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Old 07-22-2014, 03:59 AM
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good news... great!!! look forward to the pics and video
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Old 07-25-2014, 05:04 AM
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Do ultima engines come with point covers?

I have an unpleasant discovery.
My 120" complete engine came apparently without point cover[ there's a small box with air cleaner, manual, i believe exhaust gaskets and some break in oil.

I hope i havn't thrown away the cover with the shitload of wraps.

My 127 engine last year came packaged identically and it did have the cover.

So, do they come with or without covers these days? I would feel better if it came without it, than if lost it. i have 2 s$s covers laying around, - might use one of them or make my own...still, a bitter taste...
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Old 07-26-2014, 04:26 PM
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Well, here,re 2 videos of my new project.

The job in progress, it,s a teaser trailer.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5vQaO12AVqQ
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nqFKsT9UoDg


I,m procrastinating with the fender, want to do it nice, but get dirtracted by other things.

Haven,t taken her for a ride yet, just did the heat cycles.


Besides, the rear chain is not riveted yet.

Both of my ultimas fired without any modifications( I only changed the intermediate jets from the start...apparently too lean). This 120" now is 32/80.

I think she sounds healthy.
Ignore the sound at the end of the video and following Russian discussion. My wife interrupted the creative movie making with such nuisance like " the meal is ready" Gees! Who cares!
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Old 07-26-2014, 04:39 PM
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well I got a chubby...great sound. im pleased as well. good job
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Old 07-26-2014, 05:25 PM
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well I got a chubby...great sound. im pleased as well. good job
I,m afraid. To ask what chubby is...
Thanks.

I the left side you mostly hear the clutch basket, it,s shell is steel, rings like a bell as opposite to more dull sound of open. Belt primary baskets.

I,m cautious , this setup and sound is new for me, thus unclear if everything is ok.
But on the right side sweet gallop through ultima pipes.

Funny, once it,s steady 2000 rpm, like cruising, the chain stays in fixed pull position.
In idle it,s all over the place, but not laterally( quarter inch from the motor plate no scratches.

By the way, have you bleed the brakes?
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Old 07-28-2014, 09:19 AM
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Now i now hoe to add a video


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Old 07-28-2014, 09:56 AM
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I,m afraid. To ask what chubby is...
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Urban Dictionary: chubby
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Old 08-02-2014, 02:22 PM
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Getting closer to my vision.



I,m a bit intimidated by this bike, given it has true foot clutch and foot brakes only. Coming to stop and taking off might be an issue. 2 possibilities, an auto clutch... Or split the brake to foot and hand masters.

I have 2 autos with foot brakes...works great, Garry from EFM would hook me up with the auto plate , posts and extra steels for adjustment. I would have to machine my clutch hub and drill for 12 posts.

Also I,m tempted to try instead to keep the true clutch and to supply the front brake with a 14-15mm hand master within the handlebar using an inverted lever. I have a brembo 14 mm master for rear brakes that , if shaved , would fit inside the handlebar. There will be no reservoir. Difficult to mount it on the accelerator side though. Need to think.
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127"Ultima, Chassis Design rigid 2013 bobber
120"Ultima, Kraft Tech rigid 2014 bobber

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Old 08-02-2014, 02:23 PM
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Old 08-04-2014, 03:15 PM
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Took her for a ride... 1t time.

Well I braced myself and took the bobber for a ride just a few miles.
Well, that,s quite a scary experience. A lot of power...very strong clutch which 'transition zone' I have yet to figure out in order to take off smoothly( man it lurches forward) . Shifting is fine. Chain drive works fine.

Good that I have changed the hand shift from jokey to in front of me position. Bent a new pipe for the lever.

There,s the fact of danger remains...both feet off the ground at some points for foot brake and foot clutch...

Gradually an idea of an inverted lever ( the only way possible) and a reservoirless master inside handlebar....seem to take shape...
Presence of the throttle complicates the task.

So here,s my working model( need a refinement) of the lever installed easily like an expansion plug by tightening the outside nut. The trick is, the rubber plugs and washers( that space perfectly inside the bar) are impaled on a threaded 1/2" pipe, that leaves on opening for the brake pushrod to go deeper in to reach the master.
I had some aluminum bracket that I used as the material for the lever, but I might need to change the shape to more like 90 degrees. I need to work on the engagement point for the pushrod. I don,t like the clevis. There,s a lot of cleaning to do to get the final product, but it,s fun.

Tonight will try to work on the master. I need to close down those 2 magic holes completely in , sealing the system from outside and shave off alls the mounting to fit the inside the bar.


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96"s&s, Daytec dyna/ softail hybrid, 1998/2010 chopper
127"Ultima, Chassis Design rigid 2013 bobber
120"Ultima, Kraft Tech rigid 2014 bobber

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Old 08-04-2014, 05:24 PM
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Why not run a cable to a remote master? Cable inside would be easier and cleaner than a brake line, and should be easier to build, and even easier to work on.
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Old 08-04-2014, 06:20 PM
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Why not run a cable to a remote master? Cable inside would be easier and cleaner than a brake line, and should be easier to build, and even easier to work on.
Good point. I thought along those lines.
1)for instance still having one foot master, but run a cable actuator along with the foot pedal . So I can brake either with the foot or hand( for taking off or coming to stop and using foot clutch)
2)your way, an additional remote master...with the cable actuator . But where I would hide the master? On the fork? Or on the bike. Then, imagine the cable comes out of the handlebar, goes to the bike, then a line goes back to the fork and to the front brake?

I saw this Swedish design shifter with hydraulic clutch and found it interesting

Master is in the knob.
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