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Old 05-29-2012, 10:11 PM
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I don't understand the first 2 =).
I'm going to walk up to any engine, be it car, lawnmower or a formula one car, I am going to watch the valve open on the carb side, or the intake side. We know the exhaust pipe is the exhaust side.

We are looking for 2 out of 4 strokes to a 4 stroke engine. This compression stroke is our final stroke for timing purposes. Therefore, we need to take a flashlight into the spark plug hole of the front cylinder. We want to watch that intake side or the intake valve go down into the light and try to catch that opening with the flashlight.

We then see that the intake did open. There is no place for that valve to go is to move back up the head where it started. We now come around to the timing plug. We want to watch that mark come into the window.

We find a chopstick, send it down the spark plug hole, then turn the crank forward. We use a wooden tool so you do not collapse the spark plug threads, the angle of the dangle is going to cock the chopstick coming up. You'll kiss the threads if the crank moves too fast.

We use the chopstick so the piston comes up to the top. This is now on the 'compression stroke,' better known as TDC. It says for top dead center, the piston can go no farther up. That is our fully compressed [position] is that 2nd stroke.

We need to follow the intake valve or we could be on the rear cylinder kind of confusin. However, following the front cylinder's [intake] valve opening and closing, shows you are going to see the compression stroke come up next.
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That is how you found the line in the window or dot = TDC-compression. The timing cup is next. That indent at the cup and the machine cut at the cam is just X the X in the square, this is not rocket science you line up notch for notch.

Then, center the timing plate in their adjusting slots. This then is where you move the timing plate to turn the light off. Recheck is to move the crank back, watch the light go on, you move the line in the window to its center. Kill two birds that way.

Either way you look at it, you are lining up a trailing edge to a leading edge of this hall effect game. that cup's open window, or the edge of the window, is timed to that stationary magnetic behind the slotted timing plate. Thus, your leading/trailing edges you are lining up to blink all these lights going on and off.

The final check is to cover a timing light with clear wrap. Cover your hand with clear rap like a gauntlet over your arm and timing light. That timing window is going to spray an oil mist out of it. This is where you rev the engine up, look in that window [someplace outside the garage] so you can see if that timing is dead on or the timing plate needs to be moved again?

To find full advance, you blip the throttle past 2,000 rpm or more. 2,500 rpm is pushing it, seeing that the advanced is locked at 2K and it is a waste to keep revving a stationary engine without air blowing over it. So, you start with a cold engine. The short low rpm blips will not harm anything as you have to start it, pick the timing light up, adjust your eyes for the mist will pepper your face with the mist too.

Do it fast if you can is to check the timing mark's line position.
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Wow that's a long explanation lol. I did all that before I asked. I did used a rubber hose though, instead of a wooden stick. I'll do it again this weekend when I get another cup and a petcock valve.
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Gold! P/N 32402-83. Daytona Twin Tec 32402... I should get the one from BKC this weekend. Just ordered one today. Kind of fed up, my electronic switch box caught on fire when I was trying to start it.
What kind of switch box, just curious...
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It's the Electronicbox2. I didn't want that one anyway, I wanted the Motogadget M-unit.
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Is that like a load equalizer, like a badlands module?
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It's just switches for the signals. I think it shorted itself.
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I wired it just like that and switched the pink and blue couple of times, since the manual says so to get the best spark.
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I wired it just like that and switched the pink and blue couple of times, since the manual says so to get the best spark.
Still nothing ?
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I'm still waiting for my new cup. According to UPS, it's going you be here Monday. I was expecting Saturday... I'm just routing wires right now....
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Out of curiosity! Are you guys retarding/advancing the time? I bought another cup just in case BKC's doesn't work.
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just set it up at the timing mark on the fly wheel..(The deep vertical line) all advance/retard will be sorted by the ignition modual.
the reason I had to re index the pick up cup is that the modual is NOT designed to fit an XB9 nose cone......On the XB9 the mount tower/bolts that hold the modual in are NOT in the same place as on a Sporty or big twin.
inside the nosecone there are also various cast in lumps and bumps that are also not in the nosecone of a Sporty or big twin,
the re-indexing is needed so the trigger cup and the modual can work together as they were intended ................but not in an XB motor.
the trigger cup you should be trying to fit should have only two (2) cut outs on it unlike the standard XB trigger cup that has several cut outs...........
although it is not a bolt in job it realy isn't that complicated and only took me about 1/2 an hour to do.............
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Received the cup today! The first cup I had didn't have two notches but this does and it looks like it was installed before. So it was tested... I can't get it started now because I took off the cam gear cover and the gears fell out so I have to align the gears again. I'd show a picture of the cup but I think it's not fair for BKC's secret lol....
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has this motor been apart lately.
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It's up and running now....
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