Club Chopper Forums ychrome  

Go Back   Club Chopper Forums > GENERAL CHOPPER TALK AREA > Chopper Builder's Log > Big Bear Chopper Builds

Welcome to Club Chopper!  The World's largest and coolest place to be on the net if you dig the following!

  •  » Custom Bikes
  •  » Killer Paint
  •  » Old School Craftsmanship
  •  » Building and Wrenching
  •  » Hot Babes
  •  » Chopper Build Logs

...then you have come to the right place!

YES! I want to register an account for free right now!  p.s.: For registered members this ad will NOT show

Chopper Tech
Tech Article
Tech Article
Tech Article
Tech Article
Tech Article
Main Menu
Module Jump:
Club Chop Gallery

Club Chopper Gallery

Submit Your Photos!

Active Threads
edart sprocket brake
Last Post: shuvchop
Posted On: Yesterday
Replies: 29
Views: 5,067
Sunmyth
Last Post: turtle
Posted On: Yesterday
Replies: 0
Views: 30
NEW YORK FREEDOM RIDER NEWS- 4/9/21 - motorcycle related updates
Last Post: karen
Posted On: 04-09-2021
Replies: 0
Views: 39
American Iron Horse pegs
Last Post: Spade115
Posted On: 04-09-2021
Replies: 1
Views: 70
gas tank builders
Last Post: Spade115
Posted On: 04-09-2021
Replies: 5
Views: 144
More...
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 03-24-2008, 06:19 PM
Club Chopper Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Big Bear Lake, CA
Posts: 1
Not Ranked     
Big Bear Choppers 2004/2005 SLED, Venom, and Devils Advocate Frame Recall

This posting is from Big Bear American Made Choppers, Inc., and pertains to all 2004 and 2005 Sled, Venom, and Devils Advocate Chopper Owners - 350 motorcycles and kits. Please note this communication does not pertain to the ProStreet configuration of the models noted - they are unaffected by this action.

We were unable to respond by the 21st of March, as we have been coordinating the recall action with the National Highway Transportation and Safety Administration ("NHTSA"), and recall actions are governed by specific regulatory instruction. We have determined certain frame welds may not have sufficient strength where the neck is connected to the backbone and the down tube. While some welds may be of sufficient strength, there is no way to ascertain the strength of the weld by visual inspection. As a result, and in the interest of owner safety, we are recalling all frames of the affected models. Owners of the models noted above must not ride their bikes until repair is made.

We will be coordinating the repair procedure with our Dealer network in the coming days. The repair of the motorcycle will be made at no cost to the owner of the affected model, and will include an allowance for paint of the area affected by the repair. In addition to coordination with our Dealer network, we have retained the services of R. L. Polk to assist us in locating all owners of 2004 and 2005 SLED, Venom, and Devils Advocate Choppers. We will be contacting the owners by mail to notify them of the recall.

Questions regarding this posting should be directed to our Warranty Department at (909) 878-4340.

We have manufactured over 5,000 motorcycles and motorcycle kits. The safety and welfare of our Big Bear Chopper owners is of paramount importance to us; I thank you in advance for your attention to this important safety matter.


Dave Ryan
General Manager
Big Bear American Made Choppers, Inc.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 03-24-2008, 06:41 PM
chopparch1217's Avatar
CC Member/Contributor
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bedford, TX
Bike Year, Make, Engine: 2005 BBC Venom Chopper
Posts: 373
Not Ranked     
So Dave...since I'm one of the 350 affected owners, tell me about this "repair".
__________________
Be subtle, be evocative, be graceful and, above all be credible.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 03-24-2008, 06:46 PM
Hitman-98's Avatar
Club Chopper Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: S&S Country, WI
Bike Year, Make, Engine: "Broken Neck Chopper"
Posts: 399
Not Ranked     
We are not going to see any kind of post again from him.

And this is complete horse shit. They are going to grind on our bikes and reweld them. Then try and match the paint, what a fucking joke!

If the neck welds were not safe, what makes the seat post welds any safer? Or how about the welds on the swingarm? Now I have to trust "Billy Bob's Bike Shop" to "fix" my bike.

Last edited by Hitman-98; 03-24-2008 at 06:49 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 03-24-2008, 06:51 PM
Club Chopper Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Cedar Rapids, IA
Bike Year, Make, Engine: 100" Chopper, '56 FLE PAN
Posts: 1,211
Not Ranked     
So all the dealers must have frame jigs I take it. Did he mention something about repainting it?
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 03-24-2008, 06:54 PM
Hitman-98's Avatar
Club Chopper Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: S&S Country, WI
Bike Year, Make, Engine: "Broken Neck Chopper"
Posts: 399
Not Ranked     
Repainting the "affected area"

What about a powder coated frame?
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 03-24-2008, 06:55 PM
chopparch1217's Avatar
CC Member/Contributor
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bedford, TX
Bike Year, Make, Engine: 2005 BBC Venom Chopper
Posts: 373
Not Ranked     
Brutha I hear ya...That's why I want to know what this "repair" really is. Matching my paint is not going to happen. The entire frame is going to have to be redone.
__________________
Be subtle, be evocative, be graceful and, above all be credible.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 03-24-2008, 06:59 PM
Hitman-98's Avatar
Club Chopper Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: S&S Country, WI
Bike Year, Make, Engine: "Broken Neck Chopper"
Posts: 399
Not Ranked     
I am more pissed now, than when I thought I had to strip my bike and send it to Cali. At least that made more sense.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 03-24-2008, 06:59 PM
Club Chopper Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Cedar Rapids, IA
Bike Year, Make, Engine: 100" Chopper, '56 FLE PAN
Posts: 1,211
Not Ranked     
I would think that the affected area would be every weld on the frame. That's a lot of touch up paint.

And why on earth would they even attempt this and just not ship out a new frame and be done with it.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 03-24-2008, 07:02 PM
Hitman-98's Avatar
Club Chopper Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: S&S Country, WI
Bike Year, Make, Engine: "Broken Neck Chopper"
Posts: 399
Not Ranked     
New frame means new Vin # and a lot of bullshit that goes with that.

I can't beleive that the NHTSA would go along with this horse shit. How can two welds be bad and rest of the welds be okay?
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 03-24-2008, 07:07 PM
Club Chopper Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Cedar Rapids, IA
Bike Year, Make, Engine: 100" Chopper, '56 FLE PAN
Posts: 1,211
Not Ranked     
Do the dealers own welders or for that matter have a qualified man to do the job?

I can see that his thread will last way into 2009
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 03-24-2008, 07:11 PM
chopparch1217's Avatar
CC Member/Contributor
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bedford, TX
Bike Year, Make, Engine: 2005 BBC Venom Chopper
Posts: 373
Not Ranked     
I couldn't agree more Concrete Guy...Unless they had a designated "neck welding guy"...then every weld is in question.
__________________
Be subtle, be evocative, be graceful and, above all be credible.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 03-24-2008, 07:12 PM
Club Chopper Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: packerland, wi
Bike Year, Make, Engine: BBC Venom Chop S&S124
Posts: 1,019
Not Ranked     
this is not an acceptable solution to me. we should all be asking for a new frame. I will rebuild it, and accept a fair price for paint, but I will not bend over without a fight.
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 03-24-2008, 07:17 PM
Club Chopper Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: packerland, wi
Bike Year, Make, Engine: BBC Venom Chop S&S124
Posts: 1,019
Not Ranked     
Also i didn't buy my bike from a dealer and just because they build bbc bikes doesn't mean they no shit about fixing a frame.
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 03-24-2008, 07:33 PM
Dirrty Leg Inc.'s Avatar
Club Chopper Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: antioch, ca
Bike Year, Make, Engine: 04 BBC Venom Chopper
Posts: 138
Not Ranked     
this is bullsh@T, Not anywhere near acceptable. What am I supposed to ride while my bike is being completely rebuilt. I spent 35k for what? What about my ride plans? My laughlin trip. My powdercoated frame? The resale value of my bike? Any damage done to parts or painted sheetmetal during the process? Why not a new frame? I got a million of these questions, why dosen't some one from big bear give me a call with some answers.
__________________
Don't take life too seriously. You'll never get out alive.
-Van Wilder
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 03-24-2008, 07:59 PM
chopparch1217's Avatar
CC Member/Contributor
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bedford, TX
Bike Year, Make, Engine: 2005 BBC Venom Chopper
Posts: 373
Not Ranked     
Perhaps BBC could demonstrate this "repair" and touch-up paint solution on Larry's frame and post some pics.
__________________
Be subtle, be evocative, be graceful and, above all be credible.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:38 AM.


vBulletin skins developed by: eXtremepixels
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0

CC Policy

The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubchopper.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners or moderators. clubchopper.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you or have been given the expressed written consent to post. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). For full policy, please click the "CC policy" link. Thank you for visiting the clubchopper.com
Links monetized by VigLink