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Old 10-08-2011, 04:56 PM
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03 Texas chopper swingarm just broke!

Well I was out today for one of my last rides of the year and I am cruising along on a back road and the bike came to a screeching halt nearly throwing me and my girlfriend off. At first I thought the belt broke or the tranny locked up. But then i noticed the tire smashed into the fender. Here the brackets that hang down off the swingarm to bolt to the shocks tore off the frame! Is this something that is common on these frames? The bike has like 20 thousand miles on it but never abused. I weigh 165 and my girl goes sometimes and she goes around 120. Is this something that is safe to weld up? I am thinking of adding some additional gussets to strenthen it up. I am very glad I was going slow like 40 on a back road. At highway speeds it would have been disasterous. Luckily some guys happend by and helped me carry it off the road as the back tire would not turn being stuffed into the fender. I think these are a daytec frame? I wonder if I should contact them? Anybody who has suggestions or info I would appreciate it. thanks! Dan
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Old 10-09-2011, 01:00 PM
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you are indeed lucky... highway speed would have been a handfull, especially with the ol'lady.... (fuck, I hate stories like this.)

you should post a pic of the crack/ break .... personally I couldn't say yay or nay on the repair idea, but those who could are gonna want to know where exactly the break occurred... I would think.....
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Old 10-09-2011, 05:31 PM
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I ride a 2003 Texas Chopper, that scares the shit out of me. I would like to see some pics of exactly what broke and where so I can take a look at my bike. Did it break on the weld?
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Old 10-09-2011, 06:39 PM
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I have not removed it from the bike yet...still tired from wrestling the damn thing to the side of the road, into the trailer and then into the garage. I used my kids skateboard and some friends to roll it in. From what I can see, it broke right where the brackets that drop down for the shocks meet the pivot tube of the swingarm. It looks like it broke all at once because from what i can see the crack has no rust. It looks as though the weld pulled out of the metal as the weld is still attached to the pivot tube.
I agree totally that it would have been horrible at highway speeds or a sharp turn. I was sitting waiting for my buddy to come with the trailer thinking about being on a highway going 70 with a car or truck right behind you and that would happen...makes me sick to think about it. I will post pictures when I get the bike apart. Dan
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Old 10-09-2011, 07:19 PM
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damn I better check my HD frame, its 56 years old, may have a crack somewhere's
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Old 10-10-2011, 03:12 PM
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If I remember right, this happened to another TX Chop a few years back.....same area too I believe. BUT I'M NOT 100% POSITIVE.

I would definately call Daytec and explain the situation. Take some pics and send them with an email too!! They still build frames and any bad press is going to hurt business. And right now NO ONE can afford a bad reputation.

There should be a little 1 inch x 1 inch rubber bumpstop between those 2 frame pieces. It hits a plate mounted to the splash shield in front of the rear tire. IS IT STILL THERE (the bumpstop)? It must have collapsed/busted that mounting plate too?...of course I think its plastic...

Maybe welding a metel plate as a replacement for that plastic one would be a good idea
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Old 10-11-2011, 03:41 AM
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Here are some pics (hopefully) of my breakage. The bumpstop is still there and in place. The piece is kind of back in place now because the bike is on a jack. When it was sitting on the ground, you could see a big gap from the side and rear. When this broke, it let the swingarm rotate up until the tire hit the fender. I have tried to contact daytec but have not heard anything back yet. I will keep everyone informed.

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Old 10-11-2011, 10:33 AM
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Hello, I just heard from Daytec and they will fix the problem for me. They get an A+ for standing behind their product even though Iron Horse is no more. I love my bike and would hate to give up riding it. Dan
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Old 10-11-2011, 01:23 PM
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It did happen before, the guy (Bandana) is on the V2-Forum....'05 TX Chop. Daytec also fixed his for free.

Glad they're stepping up, as they should in my opinion. Same spot yours broke. He said his happened while riding back to Indiana from an event here in Ohio. Hit a huge pothole on the interstate and there she went. Said it was a good thing some of his buds were in a car behind him. Happened in a construction zone with no where to go. Said they shut down the lane of traffic for him.

Could have been much worse..........JUST LIKE YOU!!..........thankfully it worked out good both times.
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Old 10-13-2011, 10:47 PM
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man i am glad you and the lady came through with no injuries !! this shit is scary !!

i have always thought, that our raked out, fat tire bikes are not meant for 2 up riding. they are not designed / built for it, and not safe to do it on.....IMHO. i feel sorry for the gals that ride on the back of these bikes. there sitting on a little piece of foam, or a towel to protect the paint ?? bouncing up and down on the rear fender, with there knees stuck under there chin.....i just don't get it ??

it's just not a good idea.....

i have one of these bikes. i purchased the frame from RC-Components, and built it myself. it is a softail, 8" up, 2" out, 240 rear, 47deg rake, 16" over front. bla bla bla.....

i know exactly what i have, and consider it to be as safe as any other chop out there. but it will never be rode 2 up. it's just not a safe thing to do.

maybe it is due to my age. i duno.......
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Old 10-14-2011, 07:09 AM
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My wife has never rode on mine with me. I have hauled my 2 kids at times....they both just turned 8. Only around the neighborhood and maybe thru town a few times, NO interstate riding with them.
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Slut . . . , er, woman have been riding on a little foam and fenders on long bikes for what? Fifty years? Besides the normal F-ups and garden variety accidents I've never heard of some chick who died from long bike! Pregnant maybe . . . LOL!
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AIH Swingarm

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This just happened to me too in late spring of this year. I have a 2004 AIH Texas Chopper with about 19K miles and I was out riding with my wife - hit a small pothole - boom - the rear tire locks like right now! Was only doing about 40mph but I was in a poker run - my wife thought I was going down (on the pavement) but I knew I wasn't -- what I feared was what was comin' from behind - I waited and, thank God, nothing!!!

My bracket separated from the swingarm pivot tube just like yours. A real clean break. The weld here was a fillet (surface) weld - I think it should have been a full penetration weld.

I called Daytec and they said AIH made these for one rider the long rake and low ride puts alot of stress on this arm. They said send it back and they would fix it.

It took about 4 weeks but it came back looking like a tank! They even powdercoated it 'Burple' for me. It looked real nice. I hope it performs better.

Good Luck and good job keepin' it upright!!!

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Here are some pics (hopefully) of my breakage. The bumpstop is still there and in place. The piece is kind of back in place now because the bike is on a jack. When it was sitting on the ground, you could see a big gap from the side and rear. When this broke, it let the swingarm rotate up until the tire hit the fender. I have tried to contact daytec but have not heard anything back yet. I will keep everyone informed.

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Those photos are such poor quality that nothing can be gotten from them.

That company needs to hire a certified welder .
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Old 10-16-2011, 09:52 PM
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I personally dont think that this is caused by overloading the bike by riding two-up .... I mean... to have happened three times in our little world/circle of comrads... there have got to be more with these particular frames. This to me sounds like a design/welder flaw @ Daytech rather than a testament towards a need to treat a long bike like some fragile death machine.
My frame was made just like a HD softail frame but just happens to have a longer backbone, downtubes, & steeper angle on the steering neck.....
Does that really translate to fragility? More stress on swingarm area welds? ........ok, maybe a little.... but I am not going to tell my woman she can't enjoy the ride anymore (she's not on very much as it is) & I am not fortunate enough to have a stocker for trips. At least I built a decent two-up saddle for my woman. (a towel to protect the paint? really? maybe just home from the bar!)
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