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Old 08-01-2009, 07:51 PM
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Anyone use a Santee 200 rigid frame???

I'm going to be using a Santee 180-200 tire rigid frame. Has no stretch, and 33* rake. It has no tranny plate, so I need to know if an offset plate is needed. And if so, how much. My frame is same as pic below:

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Old 08-01-2009, 11:46 PM
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I did a build with that frame.. I used a no offset plate and did the offset all with a PBI offset sprocket. I can look at what size if ya need me too... I think I had to use a 3/8 spacer on the rear sprocket too..
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I'm running the a similar frame with a 1" motor spacer. I am pretty sure that the tranny offset is the same....
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Old 08-02-2009, 08:44 AM
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I'm running the a similar frame with a 1" motor spacer. I am pretty sure that the tranny offset is the same....
Uh oh! I was told no spacer for the engine. I have a .810 tranny sprocket and was hoping to get away with just that.
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The magic numbers go something like this:

Stock tire is around 5" with the sprocket centerline 3-9/16" left of the tire centerline (that is chain/belt centerline...middle of sprockets/pulleys).

A 200 tire is typically mounted on a 5.5" wide wheel which often have a .900" offset already built into the sprocket mount. A 200 is around 7" wide.

Basically the chain center is at least .900" left just from the wheel...plus any sprocket offset or spacer needed to clear the tire (tires vary...so be sure a mounted tire/wheel that will be used is available). Once you know the chain center you can decide how a trans offset sprocket, trans offset plate and motor offset may be required. www.chopperhandbook.com has driveline dimensions if you need to find the frame centerline based off the engine mount holes (those should be stock on a 200 frame).

Since there are several ways to acheive offset on a driveline, it is always best to start at the rear wheel, get close then work back from standard offset parts at the engine, transmission and final shim and axle spacers.
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Old 08-02-2009, 09:05 AM
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Stock chain clearance on the 5" tire is quite a bit so there is some room bring the chain closer to the tire on wider modifications. Aim for no less than 3/16" side clearance between tire or frame members. Vertical chain clearance needs to be considerable and varies on application with no magic number other that "no contact at any time".
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Old 08-02-2009, 03:24 PM
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It's a good frame with basic dimensions, should need little to no offset for anything. Don't think they are being manafactured anymore but can be found. I wouldn't hesitate to use one. --Drew
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Old 08-02-2009, 06:37 PM
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I have a 200 Gooseneck from them. Tried to install the tranny with an offset plate only to find out that the offset I needed was pretty much built into the frame. Ended up using a regular five speed mounting plate.
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I have a Sante frame on my rigid.. try to avoid the offset.. unless your engine is perfectly balanced it will cause your rear tire to wear unevenly. Better to go with an offset sprocket as it will make minimal difference. And beleive me.. those 200 tires aint cheap. (Been through 4 of em in 2 years)
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Old 08-03-2009, 05:27 PM
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only to find out that the offset I needed was pretty much built into the frame.
I just found somewhere in an online catalog where it said this.
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Old 08-03-2009, 08:29 PM
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Stynie, What is the inside deminsion axle block to axle block on that frame?
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