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Old 12-06-2013, 12:32 PM
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Hey all. Havent posted in a while...busy life. Coasted through many of the pages of this thread. I have enjoyed the pics, info, and personal views. I figured Id throw in my 2 cents.

In my opinion...Low budget and Rat are 2 totally different types of bikes and Ive always kinda thought of a true "Rat" as the one that wasn't planned, it just kinda happens over time. Building a so called rat bike is kinda cool, but that takes away all the history of how the bike comes to be ratty.

I personally prefer many consecutive years of riding the piss out of the same home-built scoot, 1000's of miles, on all kinds of roads, in all kinds of weather conditions. Plenty of emergency roadside repairs (not always pretty), replacement of parts and pieces as needed or wanted, and always on the same basic chassis a guy started with in the beginning. Poor old bitch almost never gets washed cuz hauln ass down a two lane on a dirty bike is more important than a Q-tip cleaning any day.

Before you know it, that sorta sunny day, backyard scuff and blow paint job has scratches, gouges, fuel stains, and dents. The front fender you used as a rear fender has been welded and re-welded a half dozen times in the stress areas and touched up with whatever black paint is left in the bottom of a 5-6-7 year old spraycan (probably left over from the original "paint job"). At least 50 lbs of dirt has attached itself to all the oil that leaks from multiple areas front to back. The tires are mismatched because that one time you almost died when the front tire blew at 60mph was in bum-fuck nowhere and the only tire available was a used, cheapy China POS that will "someday" get replaced. 4 sets of hanldebars and 3 different mirrors (because your dumb drunk ass tipped over and bent them). The 16" laced rear wheel got replaced with a junk Sporty cast wheel couple years back, cuz the laced one got ruined when you rode home 20 miles one really late nite on a flat tire. 2 Different 21" front wheels (remember the 60mph blow out? Well, the wheel wasn't perfect after and the spokes got a little loose and a couple broke). 2 different front forks, 3 different headlights, 2 rear brakelight swithes, 2 transmitions, 2 engines, 3 different carbs, 6 rear chains, 1 set of sprockets, 3 cluthes, 4 primary belts (2 open belt and 2 enclosed cuz you blew out your knee and had to convert to elec start). A home built round oiltank from Semi exhaust pipe and a 96 Sporty oil bag. Sets of spark plugs, new brakes, airfilters, gaskets, seals, clutch cables, throttle cables, wheel bearings, oil changes, etc etc etc.

Izabel is the bike pictured here, and is also the one described above. Built from a wrecked 84 FX in the basement of my old house. I welded the hardtail on next to my washer and dryer. Swap meet parts, parts from friends, and parts I already had all went together almost 10 years ago. Shes been a good old girl for the most part, especially when you consider all the wheelies, holeshots, powershifts, burnouts, and other abuse shes been through. Most recently, we found ourselves plowing into the back of a mini van that suddenly stopped 20 feet before a stopsign Labor Day weekend. She and I both suffered damage. Im laid up till spring nursing the leftovers of wounds on my right leg that became infected with Staf. She needs her rear brake/wheel worked on. Trans case will need to be welded up and the kicker cover and arm replaced. ANOTHER set of bars, blah blah blah. SHIT HAPPENS! We both will be back on the road come April.
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Old 12-06-2013, 02:19 PM
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Old 12-08-2013, 02:52 AM
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Hey all. Havent posted in a while...busy life. Coasted through many of the pages of this thread. I have enjoyed the pics, info, and personal views. I figured Id throw in my 2 cents.

In my opinion...Low budget and Rat are 2 totally different types of bikes and Ive always kinda thought of a true "Rat" as the one that wasn't planned, it just kinda happens over time. Building a so called rat bike is kinda cool, but that takes away all the history of how the bike comes to be ratty.

I personally prefer many consecutive years of riding the piss out of the same home-built scoot, 1000's of miles, on all kinds of roads, in all kinds of weather conditions. Plenty of emergency roadside repairs (not always pretty), replacement of parts and pieces as needed or wanted, and always on the same basic chassis a guy started with in the beginning. Poor old bitch almost never gets washed cuz hauln ass down a two lane on a dirty bike is more important than a Q-tip cleaning any day.

Before you know it, that sorta sunny day, backyard scuff and blow paint job has scratches, gouges, fuel stains, and dents. The front fender you used as a rear fender has been welded and re-welded a half dozen times in the stress areas and touched up with whatever black paint is left in the bottom of a 5-6-7 year old spraycan (probably left over from the original "paint job"). At least 50 lbs of dirt has attached itself to all the oil that leaks from multiple areas front to back. The tires are mismatched because that one time you almost died when the front tire blew at 60mph was in bum-fuck nowhere and the only tire available was a used, cheapy China POS that will "someday" get replaced. 4 sets of hanldebars and 3 different mirrors (because your dumb drunk ass tipped over and bent them). The 16" laced rear wheel got replaced with a junk Sporty cast wheel couple years back, cuz the laced one got ruined when you rode home 20 miles one really late nite on a flat tire. 2 Different 21" front wheels (remember the 60mph blow out? Well, the wheel wasn't perfect after and the spokes got a little loose and a couple broke). 2 different front forks, 3 different headlights, 2 rear brakelight swithes, 2 transmitions, 2 engines, 3 different carbs, 6 rear chains, 1 set of sprockets, 3 cluthes, 4 primary belts (2 open belt and 2 enclosed cuz you blew out your knee and had to convert to elec start). A home built round oiltank from Semi exhaust pipe and a 96 Sporty oil bag. Sets of spark plugs, new brakes, airfilters, gaskets, seals, clutch cables, throttle cables, wheel bearings, oil changes, etc etc etc.

Izabel is the bike pictured here, and is also the one described above. Built from a wrecked 84 FX in the basement of my old house. I welded the hardtail on next to my washer and dryer. Swap meet parts, parts from friends, and parts I already had all went together almost 10 years ago. Shes been a good old girl for the most part, especially when you consider all the wheelies, holeshots, powershifts, burnouts, and other abuse shes been through. Most recently, we found ourselves plowing into the back of a mini van that suddenly stopped 20 feet before a stopsign Labor Day weekend. She and I both suffered damage. Im laid up till spring nursing the leftovers of wounds on my right leg that became infected with Staf. She needs her rear brake/wheel worked on. Trans case will need to be welded up and the kicker cover and arm replaced. ANOTHER set of bars, blah blah blah. SHIT HAPPENS! We both will be back on the road come April.
Cool bike with lots of history, she's earned her due respect. It is a far cry from a rat though. I'd ride that beauty all day long with a big fat smile on my face..

Mak
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Old 12-08-2013, 02:53 AM
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Old 12-08-2013, 05:33 AM
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I reread this thread and deduced several conclusions:
1) price and the look of the bike are not directly related. 2) rat look is either deliberately intentional from the start ( fake) or achieved by aging with lack or minimum of care.

For instance you can start with an expensive or budget bike and let it turn into a rat over the years simply neglecting it.( imagine if you can BROUGH SUPERIOR , unkept , oil leaking and rusted with dented tank driven on a rally

You can have a very expensive yet minimalistic flat black bike . There,s also survival style in Europe, not sure about America .
You also can have a relatively cheep sleek looking pro street with a lot of conveniences , bling and lit up like Christmas tree - hardly minimalistic or rat looking bike, although it,s more difficult to achieve without some serious cash.

So, as with the discussion about diggers, you will know rat, or budget or survival bike when you see one.
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Old 12-08-2013, 01:49 PM
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Cool bike with lots of history, she's earned her due respect. It is a far cry from a rat though. I'd ride that beauty all day long with a big fat smile on my face..

Mak
Thanks Mak. Shes a good twenty footer, up close is where the road use personality becomes a little more obvious. The day I took that pic I wiped the worst of the shed dust off and went for a spin in February last year. My history with this one is far from over. Will post pics of the rebuild when I get her back to rideable condition.
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