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Old 03-07-2008, 06:20 AM
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insert your favorite curse here...............................................

Still nothing.
I pulled my old battery and checked all my wiring for rubbed, worn, kinked or broken wires. I had already filed and cleaned my main battery to frame grounding point, and now I cleaned up the two secondary points behind the battery to make sure I had good ground everywhere.

I then installed the new battery and nothing but the click of my compression release.
I have a ground wire on the starter frame and the starter terminal is connected directly to my positive battery post. There is another wire connected to the starter terminal that I assume runs to the starter relay. There is another connection on the starter that has nothing connected, I assume some applications connect a ground directly to this, but this is how my was set up from the beginning.

What the hell could this be? Could switch be bad. Seems like if it was my compression release wouldn't fire when I hit it.

I really don't want to tuck my tail between my legs and take this to the shop.
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Old 03-07-2008, 07:41 AM
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the starter post has 2 wires one coming from the battery one going to the main power feed to the ele. box the only other one is the starter triigger wire, run a wire from the pos side of bat to that termnal should start if don't pm me i'll give ya my phone and see if i can talk you through this mess ..scrotum
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Old 03-07-2008, 08:01 AM
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You sure it's not just the solenoid wire that fell off. Jump straight from the battery to the spade connector on the starter. Look for a loose wire with a spade hanging under the oil tank....
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Old 03-07-2008, 08:17 AM
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there was never anything connected to the spade terminal on the starter, just the post.
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Old 03-07-2008, 08:33 AM
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well thats a new one on me look around under the oil tank i know we had strange stuff go on at hbs ,, but you HAVE to get a trigger signal some where look all around at the oil tank and starter area look for a green wire with a spade end like i said pm me for phone help if the compression releases are hitting you have signal coming from the start button
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Old 03-07-2008, 09:16 AM
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There is another connection on the starter that has nothing connected,.
There are 3 terminals on the solenoid

1 terminal goes to the battery

1 terminal goes to the starter

1 terminal goes to the starter relay

ALL 3 terminals MUST be connected to their respective component

Do the jump with a 10ga. wire from the pos. batt. term. to the relay term. (spade connector) on the solenoid and tell us what happens

It does sound like your relay term. (spade connector) has come off
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Old 03-08-2008, 08:49 AM
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What did you find out?
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Old 03-08-2008, 09:55 AM
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I too have had way too many problems with the starter so I invensted in a manual plunger. Quick changout and not more probs.

Hey fast, you still runnin that springer on the wicked? My front feels way too sloppy right now and I think's it time for a change. Your pic of the springer got me interested. Besided, I got a kick ass design for a set of rockers that will match the flame theme.
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Old 03-08-2008, 09:58 AM
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Oh Yeah, slighest bit of corrosion on the terminals will hang you up too. Don't just check if they are loose. Loosen, remove, clean and reassemble. once or twice a year will certainly help.
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Old 03-08-2008, 10:00 AM
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yes still on the wicked been working way to much the shop is doing good trying to start building new stuff you got any input and also good to see your still riding hbs.................scrotum
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Old 03-08-2008, 10:08 AM
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Who's build and what was the length you needed to get the stance? Looks real good in the pic.

Been thinking about extending the back leg in order to make the rocker longer but don't know what that would do for handling??

Can't afford SugarBears stuff either, so I gotta do it trial and error
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Old 03-09-2008, 08:09 AM
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I got it! Broken trigger wire. It only cost me a new relay and starter! Should have started here first instead of just replacing parts.
Now I have a 1.4kw starter that seems to struggle to start the bike.
I am thinking about returning that starter and getting a 2.4kw. What do you guys think?

Thanks to you all you saved me an expensive shop bill for a simple problem (for you experienced wrenches!).

Once I get her cleaned up I will start the search for the oil leak.
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Old 03-09-2008, 10:29 AM
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Now I have a 1.4kw starter that seems to struggle to start the bike.
I am thinking about returning that starter and getting a 2.4kw. What do you guys think?
A 2.4 KW starter requires a monster battery, and is WAY overkill for your application.

Bigger is not better in this case.

HBS shipped their bikes, I believe, with 1.4 KW starters, which is plenty powerful enough to turn over a 124" motor with comp releases.

If your present 1.4 KW starter is struggling to turn over your motor, it's most likely because your battery is weak or does not have enough CCAs to power it

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Old 03-09-2008, 01:38 PM
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freak pm me late i'll mesure the forks --- tank great job thats how you learn you could have spent twice as much just going to a shop make sure your comp releases are still hitting keep up the good work now its sunday every body go out and ride.....scrotum
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Old 03-09-2008, 07:58 PM
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thanks fashd.
melrin, I just put a 310cca battery in, I know that is pushing it for a 2.4kw.
The starter i have barely can push the ring gear around if not lined up properly. Maybe I just got a bad starter, one that was laying around the shop or one they tried in another bike and passed on to me.
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