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Old 08-04-2005, 04:50 PM
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Lost MSO. What to do?

I'm buying a motor from a guy that can't seem to find his MSO. If he can't find the MSO, I can get him to write up a Bill of Sale correct?

Is a Bill of Sale just a good, or would it be more of a hassle during registration?

And what keeps someone from stealing a motor and selling with a Bill of Sale?

I'd kinda like to get my ducks in a row and know what i'm getting into if this guy can not find his MSO.

Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.
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Old 08-04-2005, 05:01 PM
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Re: Lost MSO. What to do?

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Is a Bill of Sale just a good?

What keeps someone from stealing a motor and selling with a Bill of Sale?

All states are different and not having a title or mso for the engine could mean confiscation of your engine or entire bike until you prove where the parts you built it with came from. That's the way it works here in kansas.
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Old 08-04-2005, 06:00 PM
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Walk away. Do not buy that motor!!!!!!!!! My .02 I've leaned that lesson the hard way
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Old 08-04-2005, 06:22 PM
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It should not be a proplem for him to get a replacement from the maker..
Have them fax a copy , and drop one in the snail mail...
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Old 08-04-2005, 06:22 PM
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If its a new motor the owner can get a replacement mso from the seller of the motor. I have customers that come back to me years later for mso's they never knew they needed to keep. We can get them duplicates most of the time.
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Old 08-04-2005, 07:05 PM
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I would get the serial number and contact the manufacture and the company he bought the motor from. Personally I would be skeptical and would take my business else where unless the MSO became available.
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Old 08-04-2005, 07:36 PM
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Let It be his job to get the mso. You never know what kind of can of worms you could open. When I was given the MSO for a frame , they told me not to loose it, cause I would never get the bike taged. Their words where " If you do cut the frame into peices cause it's worth-less" Just my 2%, better safe than sorry. Good Luck Mike
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Old 08-04-2005, 08:31 PM
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Re: MSO

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Let It be his job to get the mso.
Lotta good advice here. Make sure the seller is up front before you fork over the cash for the motor. You're the only one that actually has your best interest at heart.
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Old 08-05-2005, 04:35 AM
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He has an item for sale that has to have appropriate paperwork........His responsibility to provide it. My .02
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Old 08-05-2005, 06:00 AM
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Markee, I am out on Long Island and just went through reigistration. I only had a bill of sale for my motor and trans but I also had a copy of the registration of the bike it came off of. If he bought the motor new the company should be able to provide him with a new copy of the MSO. If they cant walk away from it. They, the inspectors, even gave me a hard time and that was after Albany gave me the "OK" for the bill of sale. It took me 5 hours to get my bike back two weeks ago. If you have any questions just email me at nzazzi@hotmail.com
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Old 08-05-2005, 06:48 AM
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I really appreciate all the advice and experiences guys.

I'm not going to chance buying this motor with out the MSO.

I must be a magnet for people that don't have it together. I took off work today to pick this motor up 6 hours away. I get no call last night that he found the paper work or not. What ever happened to treating people how you would like to be treated?

Frustrated.
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Old 08-05-2005, 09:52 AM
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Not for nothing, but when a guy is bargain shopping on every piece rather than dealing with a single company, there are bound to be some ups and downs on quality and reliability. Sometimes a good deal pans out and some times the customer gets burned.

My .02 cents on this motor thing is that the other reason to be skeptical with only a bill of sale is that you don't ever know where the motor actually came from.
A guy could polish up an S&S short block and assemble it himself using low grade parts and call it a TP motor and you would never know the difference with a bill of sale other than your motor sucked, which you would blame on TP.
The MSO is not only for ownership but also for identification of the motor's origins.
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Old 08-06-2005, 07:45 PM
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You're right Phantom. It seems like you pay for it in crap services or money in the end. This is a ebay item of course, and so far my experiences with high priced items on ebay have been quite "shitty" for a lack of a better word.

It would just be nice to see someone have their crap together before listing something on ebay. I won the item at a very low price because it was cash only, and I bidded because it's in pick up range. I won ruffly 2500.00 below retail. I have a feeling the seller is giving me the run around in hopes I will bail out so he can try and sell at a higher price. I hate drama.....
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Old 08-06-2005, 10:07 PM
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"drama" is the perfect word. Many of these guys on Ebay do not come from the motorcycle industry but saw an opportunity to cash in on the latest fad. So, they put their Amway tree chart away and started an internet bike company in their Mom's basement.
They know nothing about this industry, or the bikes, or the people involved and realistically, they probaly don't care too either.
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