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Old 08-02-2020, 02:29 PM
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Looking for advice from the Old Pros...

So I'm in the repair mode after my little crash Welp... Fcuk my Luck...

I rattled can'd the tank and fenders where they got hit and I got a good deal on a used jack yesterday and was able to get her in the air today. Got the new battery in place and temporarily zip tied. Now here's where I need some input.

1. How should I mount a plate to the lower side to hold the battery in?
Weld, bolt,metal Adel clamps and a flat plate??? Looking for a temporary fix until winter time. I'll tare down and rebuild then!
2. I notice my front end doesn't seem to have any limit to travel now. I never noticed this before. It's as if the internal fork stops, have been broken. Is this even possible?
3. I noticed today that the Headlight plug that the bulb plugs into, show signs of overheating. I just ordered a new headlight assembly and was curious if there might be an electrical issue I may need to dive into, or can I just wire up the new light in place and be good to go?
4. My RH forward control is busted and I been trying to locate parts and/or a single replacement, but it looks like I'll be shelling out 800.00 for a new set.
5. I just noticed that the carb is loose at the jugs after taking the hit. Should be able to just snug them back up, right! Shit I sure hope so! I'll take a look soon as I get back home...
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Old 08-02-2020, 02:55 PM
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So I'm in the repair mode after my little crash Welp... Fcuk my Luck...

I rattled can'd the tank and fenders where they got hit and I got a good deal on a used jack yesterday and was able to get her in the air today. Got the new battery in place and temporarily zip tied. Now here's where I need some input.

1. How should I mount a plate to the lower side to hold the battery in?
Weld, bolt,metal Adel clamps and a flat plate??? Looking for a temporary fix until winter time. I'll tare down and rebuild then!

that,s a crappy place for a battery. Typically it should be vertical between the fender and starter, you seem to have room. A battery box from eBay with padding could be temporarily fixed in that nook and later installed appropriately

2. I notice my front end doesn't seem to have any limit to travel now. I never noticed this before. It's as if the internal fork stops, have been broken. Is this even possible? yes, those internal stops are not tough

3. I noticed today that the Headlight plug that the bulb plugs into, show signs of overheating. I just ordered a new headlight assembly and was curious if there might be an electrical issue I may need to dive into, or can I just wire up the new light in place and be good to go?
Probably can wait as it doesn,t seem related to the crash, but you might need thicker gauge wire to keep up with the amperage
4. My RH forward control is busted and I been trying to locate parts and/or a single replacement, but it looks like I'll be shelling out 800.00 for a new set.
If you,re hell bent on having the same - then you will. But look at eBay , see if there are cheaper options for the whole set.
5. I just noticed that the carb is loose at the jugs after taking the hit. Should be able to just snug them back up, right! Shit I sure hope so! I'll take a look soon as I get back home...Are the cylinders solid? Is the intake manifold ok? , carb body is without the damage? You will need to reinstall the manifold appropriately with the new orings
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Old 08-02-2020, 06:24 PM
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1.Right you are correct, I do have room for a battery box, but I was looking for a possible secure way to leave it mounted in that location for now. I think I have an idea...
2. With the internal stops busted, is this a concern that can wait or should it be addressed right away?
3. That was my thoughts, probably have to run heavy gauge wire, especially with the new Headlight.
4. I'm not hell bent on keeping the same ones, I just want to ride! I'll check ebay!
5. Carb, intake manifold, cylinders all look good. The air cleaner cover took all the initial hit. I did get the wires repaired and connected to the battery this evening and tried it out. She turned over but that new battery needs to be put on the charger so it didn't fire right off.

It looks like I'll have to take the carb off and the ignition just to get to the four bolts holding the intake manifold on, correct? Also, how in the HELL do I get to those bolts. Seems to be no clearance for an Allen socket and extended Allen sockets appear to be to long.....
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Old 08-02-2020, 07:44 PM
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STEINBVG...
1.Right you are correct, I do have room for a battery box, but I was looking for a possible secure way to leave it mounted in that location for now. I think I have an idea...
2. With the internal stops busted, is this a concern that can wait or should it be addressed right away?
3. That was my thoughts, probably have to run heavy gauge wire, especially with the new Headlight.
4. I'm not hell bent on keeping the same ones, I just want to ride! I'll check ebay!
5. Carb, intake manifold, cylinders all look good. The air cleaner cover took all the initial hit. I did get the wires repaired and connected to the battery this evening and tried it out. She turned over but that new battery needs to be put on the charger so it didn't fire right off.

It looks like I'll have to take the carb off and the ignition just to get to the four bolts holding the intake manifold on, correct? Also, how in the HELL do I get to those bolts. Seems to be no clearance for an Allen socket and extended Allen sockets appear to be to long.....
2. Not a problem as long as yo don,t let handlebars to hit the tank while parking
3. Perhaps the new headlight draws more amps than the previous one- thus heats up the wire, most likely 18 -20 gauge. I always run 16 on peripheral wires.it doesn,t take much more space or money.
4. I presume you have softail setup forwards. Should be plenty of options
5. There,s a special conveniently bent Allen wrench for the manifolds, but the long Allen with the ball at the end should do.

Make sure you look up manifold installation procedure to install the o rings correctly so you don,t have leaks. Otherwise she will run like shit, if at all.

I believe this is your biggest concern because you don,t know how much the intake/ carb were damaged. Could be a tiny invisible crack

Good luck
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Old 08-03-2020, 08:20 AM
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Thanks STEIN! Let's hope for the best on the intake/carb
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Old 08-03-2020, 07:56 PM
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Another issue with the headlight bulb could be a loose prong, if you are running a halogen bulb then that can get hot right there fast....go LED..
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Old 08-08-2020, 07:01 PM
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Hate it sometimes when season veterans give you advice and it turns out to be true... Got the bike mostly back together this evening. Battery tray is done and I was able to fix the forward control.. That's the good news 😜

Bad news, soon as I turn the petcock on, fuel starts pissing like a sieve from the lower side of the carb bowl. I had the carb off earlier and I didn't see any visible damage, but it's definitely pissin' from somewhere 😭
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Old 08-08-2020, 07:35 PM
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Hate it sometimes when season veterans give you advice and it turns out to be true... Got the bike mostly back together this evening. Battery tray is done and I was able to fix the forward control.. That's the good news 😜

Bad news, soon as I turn the petcock on, fuel starts pissing like a sieve from the lower side of the carb bowl. I had the carb off earlier and I didn't see any visible damage, but it's definitely pissin' from somewhere 😭
That,s what I was afraid of.
Try to find what,s leaking...

Disassemble check out the float and the needle that shuts off the fuel at a level.
Could be that it just all moved from the fall and not sitting/ sealing properly.
It might be repairable.

If there are cracks, body damages than perhaps not.
Keep us posted.
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Old 08-09-2020, 08:42 AM
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... There's something fcuk'd here 🤬.. In both pics
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Old 08-09-2020, 09:28 AM
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Looks like the float bowl is cracked.
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Old 08-09-2020, 09:50 AM
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Well just how in the hell did this happen 🤔🤔🤔? The two main carb mount bolts weren't loose when I took it apart! Did the phenolic spacer between the carb and manifold compress allowing the lower mount bolt to crush the side if the carb bowl... WTF 😩. I took a pretty hard hit, at speed but shit!
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Old 08-09-2020, 09:51 AM
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Hey STEINBVG ��️, I think we need a new one ��
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Old 08-09-2020, 09:59 AM
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Does the float action still work smoothly?
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Old 08-09-2020, 10:50 AM
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Yes, float still moves freely, I don't see any other issues besides the bowl being cracked
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Old 08-09-2020, 11:25 AM
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Most likely will need a new bowl.
I would follow the line of the impact , try to see what hit that particular spot and see if any other damage is visible.
Wierd spot to have that much damage isolated to such a small area.
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