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Old 05-17-2017, 11:20 AM
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To people who ride hardtails. Hurting back and cracking frame/fender.

I want to build a bike, i am not sure if hardtail is a good idea.
1.What is spring seat travel distance? 3"?
How bad spring seat comparing to rear shocks?
2.I read complaints about cracking rear fenders, is that because of hardtail? Hardtail fenders and frames probably get 10x load of rear suspension bikes, is that why they crack?

So, how is your back and rear fender/frame?
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Old 05-17-2017, 11:39 AM
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I want to build a bike, i am not sure if hardtail is a good idea.
1.What is spring seat travel distance? 3"?
How bad spring seat comparing to rear shocks?
2.I read complaints about cracking rear fenders, is that because of hardtail? Hardtail fenders and frames probably get 10x load of rear suspension bikes, is that why they crack?

So, how is your back and rear fender/frame?
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I like hard-tails- i have 2. Both with sprang seats which do soften the ride a bit. I also i keep the rear tire pressure about 20, some people even lower.
Both of my bikes have floor boards . On a rough road i move feet closer and can spring up with my legs like on stirrups protecting my back- which you can't do with regular forward controls.
I think fenders might crack on any bike if they are not fixed well and flop allowing some flex and metal fatigue.

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Old 05-17-2017, 01:45 PM
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My hardtail has a sprung seat also, like STEINBVG said, low air pressure in the rear tire helps, I run mine at 24 psi. A strong, well mounted rear fender will be trouble free, I like Kraftech frames for their strength. I've been riding hartails since 1986 but I no longer ride one as my primary bike, you'll learn to avoid potholes, and with a sprung seat the ride is just fine except for the fabulous PA roads.
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Old 05-17-2017, 02:32 PM
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My hardtail has a sprung seat also, like STEINBVG said, low air pressure in the rear tire helps, I run mine at 24 psi. A strong, well mounted rear fender will be trouble free, I like Kraftech frames for their strength. I've been riding hartails since 1986 but I no longer ride one as my primary bike, you'll learn to avoid potholes, and with a sprung seat the ride is just fine except for the fabulous PA roads.
Thanks to Captain and his insights I went on to build this low Kraftech bobber. Yep the frame is great. My friend is a welding inspector confirmed that the welds are of good quality. I kept my frame unpainted ....just like dragsters
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Old 05-17-2017, 08:44 PM
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They are rough for sure..The main problem is that you bounce when you hit a bump..I have bounced into on coming traffic three times and it is not fun...usually in a curve...major friggin scary..all 3 times I have been riding with other people trying to keep up..and complaining that every one is riding too fast...so.......
needless say , a rigid is only good for riding around the neighborhood on familiar streets , and getting the thumbs up.....I often wonder if a soft tail would eliminate the bounce..
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Old 05-23-2017, 03:18 PM
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Hardtails and forwards can be uncomfortable on bumpy roads, I rode mine for ten years and suffered broken spokes and a sore tongue.... not to mention a slam in the lower back when unexpected, but I loved every minute of it.
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Old 05-23-2017, 03:24 PM
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Love mine and still ride it long distance. I only like riding about 450 miles a day..when I was younger it was longer days..
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Hardtails and forwards can be uncomfortable on bumpy roads, I rode mine for ten years and suffered broken spokes and a sore tongue.... not to mention a slam in the lower back when unexpected, but I loved every minute of it.
You got rid of it??? I got a few for sale.. lol
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Old 12-06-2017, 11:18 PM
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I've had my hardtail since I built it in 2000. First incarnation was closer to stock, but still had trouble with the rear fender cracking and breaking. When I did the full custom job on it in 2004, I built in a subframe for the rear fender. Here's a shot of the subframe in process.


I added a couple more reinforcements between the 2 side rails anywhere there was going to be a bolt hole. I've been riding it since then with no cracking problems.
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Old 12-07-2017, 06:42 AM
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ive had with sprung seat and with a king queen... both were real good. If you go king queen make sure the back on the king comes up and cradles lower back, pretty nice in my opinion
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Old 12-07-2017, 10:53 AM
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I forgot to mention the 5" springs under my seat. They help a lot, but I have bottomed them out a time or two. You still need to watch for the BIG pot holes.
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